and third worst I've ever seen from him (after Following as well) and I saw all except first three long time before mainstream discovered him
he wanna be sophisticated, but movie becomes so complicated it's impossible to follow (and honestly I don't even care) and then he pretends audience is too stupid, while Inception or Interstellar feel like movies for toddlers next to this
main character is untouchable perfect superhero which will get boring very fast
also action and music are both kinda meh, too many slow scenes and when then there is action is very underwhelming, for instance the truck chase felt almost like some cheap European TV show, same goes for previous amazing soundtracks, now we get this Knight Rider parody
the characters undeveloped unlikable, especially the black dude always with same expression without any acting skills, one again why should I care about them while I'm watching this?
he should really take break and they should cut his budget since it seems he is too full of himself, if he produce something like this and media hype it so much, do yourself a service and watch anything he done in last ten years instead of this or anything from Villeneuve
6/10 (same as I gave to crappy B movie Boss level, because honestly they are both comparable boring/bad in their own ways, but while BL tries to not be so bad so it deserves that extra pointy for trying, Tenet comes from someone who obviously knows how to make good movies)
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Reply by Midi-chlorian_Count
on December 1, 2020 at 8:56 AM
I don't really buy into the Michael Mann Batman film style so for me Batman Begins was probably the best of the Nolan efforts.
However surely everyone rates it above the terrible Dark Knight Rises?
Reply by Markoff
on December 1, 2020 at 8:59 AM
Nah, DKR was still quite decent movie, nothing spectacular, but good instead of this sophisticated wannabe mess, bunch of scenes glued together without proper story which could viewer follow.
Reply by aholejones
on December 3, 2020 at 12:40 PM
To each their own, but I think Dark Knight Rises was much more like Tenet than Begins was. In DKR and Tenet you have a bunch of wildly changing locales and scenes glued together to make some kind of a movie. The worst scene in DKR probably being when they Bane takes the B-man with him on a plane ride to deliver him to some random hole in some far away country. That must have been an awfully long and awkward intercontinental flight.
I should also point out that DKR and Tenet share a lot in the fighting scenes department in that they are both....well.....rather terrible. DKR has the B-man throw wild haymakers at Bane in their first encounter and abandon everything else for some reason. Good thing the B-man has learned his lesson and wisened up for the second encounter when he bests bane by........again throwing wild haymakers like the seasoned expert fighter he is. I never even noticed it was a common theme in Nolan films until someone pointed it out, I believe on this forum, that Nolan has never really had the ability to film good fight scenes and Tenet is definitely no exception in that regard.
Reply by tmdb53400018
on December 3, 2020 at 9:30 PM
I rank the Nolan films:
For the longest time, I believed that my opinion of TDKR was negatively slanted by the tragedy at that very early screening of the film in Aurora, Colorado. But nyah, TDKR is just cruddy. In my opinion.
What happened in Aurora was terrible and had to be damaging to Chris Nolan. Hell, maybe that's a concrete reason as to why some of you feel his films have decreased in quality since then.
Reply by tmdb53400018
on December 3, 2020 at 11:57 PM
As long as you're amused by what you're writing, mech, I'm happy for you.
Reply by tmdb53400018
on December 4, 2020 at 12:18 AM
Do I even need to say "That's sexist?" It is.
Reply by Markoff
on December 4, 2020 at 1:15 AM
From what I remember DKR was very easy to follow with good pace , not many empty scenes just filling runtime, meanwhile in Tenet it is very difficult to follow, rarely you have some action and space between is filled with too much talk, most of the wives scenes were really just filler and Nolan should really cut on his runtime, if he can't fit movie in 120 minutes. Not going to discuss plotholes nad illogical things, just talking about pace and how easy is each movie to follow.
Reply by Midi-chlorian_Count
on December 4, 2020 at 10:44 AM
I'd agree with that.
Having said that, it's really been a long time since I've watched any of them. Really just not that into them.
I know the fanboys salivate heavily over them, TDK especially, but I'm just not a fan of Nolan's stylisation of what are comic book adaptations. Just does nothing for me.
Reply by tmdb53400018
on December 4, 2020 at 12:21 PM
If you follow my posts to any extent whatsoever, you might figure out that I'm a Marvel guy, not that into the DCEU or whatever it's called. I agree with you, Midi - The Dark Knight seems to be the fanboys', and so many other people's, favorite out of Nolan's Bat-films.
My thing is, Nolan's films are my favorite out of all the Bat-films, in sum total. You probably won't catch me watching Robert Pattinson's take on Wayne/Bats, and I was appalled by what Affleck did with him.
Reply by tmdb53400018
on December 4, 2020 at 12:39 PM
I hesitantly liked your post, mech, as I can empathize with part of your statement. But you have to be careful what you write and think about women. As for the definition of "sexism" becoming elastic, yes, I'd hate to see it go the way that "Racism" did.
Reply by tmdb53400018
on December 5, 2020 at 6:51 AM
Blah, blah, blah, I know all that shit. I'm just saying, like it was stated at the beginning of the French film La Haine, it's not how you fall in life... it's how you land. If you want to be a quiet sexist toward women or a secret misogynist, go ahead, be my guest. But as the black writer James Baldwin once stated, Hatred never failed to destroy the man who hated. I'm not judging you, of course.
Reply by tmdb53400018
on December 5, 2020 at 7:55 AM
Uhh... black pride?
Reply by tmdb53400018
on December 6, 2020 at 9:40 PM
Honestly, mechajutaro, it was not my intention to maintain "racial essentialism" in my post. I am actually opposed to the concept of black essentialism. The mention of James Baldwin's "race" was simply an assertion of pride, nothing more. Actually, when you first posted your question about my mention of Baldwin's "race" up above, I fully anticipated this course of argument from you (Why do I feel like I am taking part in a pivotal internet debate on this thread?). I knew everything that you covered in your post. Also, I want to state that I didn't think for a moment you'd give me the last word in this thread. In my opinion, that shows insecurity on your part -- refusing to give the last word to another poster. Next, I imagine you'll employ circular logic with me by accusing me of being insecure as well, for replying to you.
Furthermore, in my judgment, James Baldwin was an outstanding writer when it came to limning social circumstances that are especially relevant to black people. In this case, his skin color is relevant to his writing. I do feel that a great writer is a great writer, however, regardless of color or "race."
Reply by tmdb53400018
on December 7, 2020 at 6:39 PM
Ha... at the same time you posted that, you did take away the last word from me... just an observation. I took it back.
Reply by tmdb82469342
on December 11, 2020 at 3:23 PM
Batman Begins was excellent, this is simply his worst.