Item: Va Savoir (Who Knows?)
Language: en-US
Type of Problem: Incorrect_content
Extra Details: The English title of the movie should only be who knows? don't have Va Savoir
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Reply by RNL
on January 14, 2024 at 11:03 AM
The original English-language release title was Va Savoir. The title should be the same but with a capital S.
Reply by Mikedeth
on January 16, 2024 at 2:19 PM
Any concrete source on this (only being the capitalized French title)? Both the theatrical poster and Filmratings.com use the exact title we have here.
Reply by RNL
on January 16, 2024 at 6:37 PM
It depends on whether you think a translation of a title appearing on a poster is automatically intended as part of the title.
As a general rule I'd say it's almost certainly not, and if the non-English title is retained for English territories what you'll likely see in the actual film is the non-English title onscreen with the translation in the subtitles. You won't see it rendered onscreen as "French Title (English Title)."
See the American trailer - the onscreen title and the title as rendered in the billing block at the end is just Va Savoir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JErH1_fssuM
Reply by RNL
on January 17, 2024 at 3:00 PM
Closed without comment, why?
I was under the impression the onscreen title (ie: the title attached to the actual film) took precedence over titles used on posters and websites.
From the Contribution Bible: "The original title should always be the title used in the original version of the film ... The translated titles follow the same rules as the original title."
The onscreen title in the original French is "Va savoir", and the onscreen title in Anglophone territories is "Va Savoir".
"Va Savoir (Who Knows?)" doesn't appear onscreen in any version.
Reply by Mikedeth
on January 17, 2024 at 3:11 PM
Subtitled/dubbed versions rarely change the actual original opening credits, that rule you quoted is mostly enforced when there's discrapancies in the original release (promo material having different spelling and whatnot), as you said in the previous comment it just depends in what you or me think. Report was closed since my reasoning didn't change.
Edit: I mentioned the MPA website in a prior reply, which you for some reason choose to omit. It wasn't solely the poster the reason, but how their site decided to list such release.