i thought the film was about one man discovering and exploring his potential homosexuality... the whole underground fight scene and secret society was an allegory to cruising for male lovers... sweaty naked men, etc...

in the end the narrator decides to return to the straight way, (out of fear?) but only having deconstructed his life and his world first...

And what do you expect from a gay author who wrote the book?

I liked Fight Club, both the film and the book... the transgressive parts were interesting whether you place them in the gay world or if you consider them from an anti-consumerist or anarchist point of view...

I remember coming out of the theatre and turning to my girlfriend to say how great the movie was and wanting to discuss the themes, but she just felt is was too dark of a movie... even though it ended with him manning up and accepting that he needed love and human connection instead of being caught up in either acquiring more material things, or similarly, being obsessed with riling against the system... it was a spiritual awakening, but i think the grimness and anarchy of the rest of the film overshadowed this part...

I read one of Palahniuk's other books, Choke, and didn't like it... Not well written at all and the themes weren't particularly interesting either...

@Egon1982 said:

Do you consider Tyler to be a hero and all because some say he represent freedom for every man since he rejects society, he hates consumerism, he feels males are being too feminized and not masculine, he hates political correctness, his "i don't give a fuck attitude", he hates being a slave to work and all plus has high intelligence. Or was he a total psycho who only existed in a faustrated worker's mind?

And do you consider the moral of this movie to be coming of age where the narrator is like a kid who loved his material possessions, when he met Tyler he became a rebellious teen and when he realized he created a monster near the end, he finally outgrow him and learned to grow up to become a mature individual? was that the moral and point of the film? if not, what is the moral?

Tyler is a hero but like most, he too is flawed.

There isn't a 'moral' as such - Fincher's not one to moralise - but there is a takeaway in that Norton gains enlightenment as Tyler liberates him from his bland auto-life. Then it gets interesting, in the same way that revolutionaries often end up becoming dictators, Tyler's liberating ideology becomes oppressive, and Norton must eventually kill his mentor to find balance.

I see it as a warning not to get seduced by an attractive ideology. At certain points in life we need to learn certain things, but no single teacher has all the answers.

That's what I think. His cult was so branwashed they were willing willing to blow themselves up in order to bring in a new age. I guess being Amish is a goal of you destroy your cities economic power or going to jail for a mentally disabled man who's crazy

@Drooch said:

There isn't a 'moral' as such - Fincher's not one to moralise - but there is a takeaway in that Norton gains enlightenment as Tyler liberates him from his bland auto-life. Then it gets interesting, in the same way that revolutionaries often end up becoming dictators, Tyler's liberating ideology becomes oppressive, and Norton must eventually kill his mentor to find balance.

I see it as a warning not to get seduced by an attractive ideology. At certain points in life we need to learn certain things, but no single teacher has all the answers.

Nice

tyler was far from a hero but he was who the narrator wanted to be.

Tyler is nothing but a despicable garbage being

@Renovatio said:

i thought the film was about one man discovering and exploring his potential homosexuality... the whole underground fight scene and secret society was an allegory to cruising for male lovers... sweaty naked men, etc...

in the end the narrator decides to return to the straight way, (out of fear?) but only having deconstructed his life and his world first...

The great thing about Fight Club is that it's about everything! It can mean so many different things and every time I watch it I discover something different or see it in a different way. Very few films can pull off such a plethora of different messages and allegories but Fight Club does it effortlessly.

I can't say I ever saw it as an allegory for homosexuality nor have I ever heard it mentioned in any articles, but having recently discovered that Chuck Palahniuk is gay it does make total sense that this is one of the intended readings.

@GlompsAndNibbles said:

@Illustrator/Sculptor: Taishiro Kiya said:

Tyler is nothing but a despicable garbage being

I couldn't agree more. Terrible film making. Ghastly.

I'm gonna go burn my copy of Fight Club after reading the post.

I need some gasoline please

I'd be interested in knowing what movies you like. Fight Club is absolutely brilliant.

@GlompsAndNibbles said:

@chilone said:

I'd be interested in knowing what movies you like. Fight Club is absolutely brilliant.

Hey Chilone. How are ya..

I'm surprised you didn't read this post of my (now copied below)

• All i gotta say is that i love the film. Isn't the plot simple enough for people to understand that the narrator was timid and easily subdued and he needed Tyler to get him through?

I strongly feel that somewhere , some point in our lives we need a Tyler too.

I ADORE Fight Club. It holds the 2nd place in my All time Favorite 5 Movie list. So it's definitely gotta be something for me. It's just that my post triggered a user on the thread. I don't care if people think otherwise. If they got a problem with me liking Fight Club , they can come talk to me. I'm a pretty sick person and an a-hole that way.

I am glad to know you find the movie brilliant too

I'd be interested in knowing what movies you like.

• I enjoy horror and action. I love animated movies with a nice story. Once Upon A Time In The West, Trainspotting, Pulp Fiction are some movies i treat with a very high regard.

Anyways, speaking of Fight Club, i enjoy bar fights and setting things on fire. We should try doing it together someday.

Ooops! Didn't catch the context. :)

@chilone said:

@Egon1982 said:

Do you consider Tyler to be a hero and all because some say he represent freedom for every man since he rejects society, he hates consumerism, he feels males are being too feminized and not masculine, he hates political correctness, his "i don't give a fuck attitude", he hates being a slave to work and all plus has high intelligence. Or was he a total psycho who only existed in a faustrated worker's mind?

And do you consider the moral of this movie to be coming of age where the narrator is like a kid who loved his material possessions, when he met Tyler he became a rebellious teen and when he realized he created a monster near the end, he finally outgrow him and learned to grow up to become a mature individual? was that the moral and point of the film? if not, what is the moral?

Tyler is a hero but like most, he too is flawed.

He's no hero, he's an extremely dangerous lunatic

His name is Robert Paulson!

You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake!