It wont let me edit, but of course it's "much-touted" not "much-tauted".. d'oh.

Ill copy and paste something I said in my review.

'I also feel like the director, a female, threw in the male nudity to try and counter balance the female nudity...except there was no female nudity. Just bra and panties. Mean while we have the lead bad guy running around dick flopping around. Again, I would be just fine with that IF Jen did the same thing. The director was obviously trying to make a statement about sexplotation in films. From the male nudity to the low angle ass shots on Jen. Also the line at the end, 'Women always have to put up a fight.' ehhh seemed a little to on head for me. We get it, girl power, you dont need to spoon feed it to us. But you should be expecting that going into a film like this.'

That was basically the only 'feminist' angles that I got form watching the film. I have seen the original and remake and sequels of I Spit on your Grave and plenty of other female/male revenge films. I really enjoy the revenge genre films and yes they all have basically the same premise, especially when it comes to female leads. But the male nudity and 'the women always have to put up a fight' line are the only feminist things that stand out to me. Everything else in the film is your standard rape/revenge type of film.

@SydneyFife said:

So, having finished this movie and having previously heard that it supposedly told the "rape-revenge" story from a "feminist perspective" ... and now reading review after review on rottentomatoes and other >places, none of which see mto be able to leave out the word feminist, I am honestly puzzled. Puzzled as to where exactly the feminism is hidden in this otherwise fine (really good even) addition to the genre. snip

So, there you have it. To make a feminist movie, have a female director and don't be sadistic, I guess.

Thoughts?

Not sure what you were expecting. Did you think she would speechify about "rape culture" and feminism whilst she was running around in the desert with a hole in her abdomen being hunted by 3 men? I think the "feminism" in the story has merely to do with her not taking it while also giving it back to them. Why does it have to be more than that?

@MongoLloyd said:

Not sure what you were expecting. Did you think she would speechify about "rape culture" and feminism whilst she was running around in the desert with a hole in her abdomen being hunted by 3 men? I think the "feminism" in the story has merely to do with her not taking it while also giving it back to them. Why does it have to be more than that?

Hmm, you did not catch what I was actually asking:

My question was not: "why isn't this movie more feminist?", but rather: "why are so many reviewers calling this feminist?"

My response still applies.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that point.

Not really. You're asking "why are critics calling this feminist?" Which is the same thing as asking "where were the feminist elements in this film?"

@OddRob said:

Ill copy and paste something I said in my review.

'I also feel like the director, a female, threw in the male nudity to try and counter balance the female nudity...except there was no female nudity. Just bra and panties. Mean while we have the lead bad guy running around dick flopping around. Again, I would be just fine with that IF Jen did the same thing. The director was obviously trying to make a statement about sexplotation in films. From the male nudity to the low angle ass shots on Jen. Also the line at the end, 'Women always have to put up a fight.' ehhh seemed a little to on head for me. We get it, girl power, you dont need to spoon feed it to us. But you should be expecting that going into a film like this.'

That was basically the only 'feminist' angles that I got form watching the film. I have seen the original and remake and sequels of I Spit on your Grave and plenty of other female/male revenge films. I really enjoy the revenge genre films and yes they all have basically the same premise, especially when it comes to female leads. But the male nudity and 'the women always have to put up a fight' line are the only feminist things that stand out to me. Everything else in the film is your standard rape/revenge type of film.

There was female nudity. Perhaps you dozed off? There was no sniz but there was T & A. How often do you see sniz in a film, anyhow? It's pretty rare.

As far as it being "feminist," the female prevails. But females usually do in these kind of films so I agree, there is not much original in the way this turns out.

Yes, it was incredibly unrealistic but it was still fun to watch.

Kewl Kat--

I have not seen this movie ("Revenge"), but I am giving you "props" (do people still say that?) for using the word "sniz". (I'm assuming it refers to female genitalia).

I've never heard that word before:

"Sniz".

I learned something new today, and you gave me a chuckle; thanks

@northcoast said:

Kewl Kat--

I have not seen this movie ("Revenge"), but I am giving you "props" (do people still say that?) for using the word "sniz". (I'm assuming it refers to female genitalia).

I've never heard that word before:

"Sniz".

I learned something new today, and you gave me a chuckle; thanks

Yeah, no problem. As Joni Mitchell would say, "life is for learning."

Just so you know, both spellings, "sniz" and "snizz" are considered correct. The spelling is usually determined by region. Where I come from, one 'z' is preferred.

@Kewl_Kat said:

@OddRob said:

Ill copy and paste something I said in my review.

'I also feel like the director, a female, threw in the male nudity to try and counter balance the female nudity...except there was no female nudity. Just bra and panties. Mean while we have the lead bad guy running around dick flopping around. Again, I would be just fine with that IF Jen did the same thing. The director was obviously trying to make a statement about sexplotation in films. From the male nudity to the low angle ass shots on Jen. Also the line at the end, 'Women always have to put up a fight.' ehhh seemed a little to on head for me. We get it, girl power, you dont need to spoon feed it to us. But you should be expecting that going into a film like this.'

That was basically the only 'feminist' angles that I got form watching the film. I have seen the original and remake and sequels of I Spit on your Grave and plenty of other female/male revenge films. I really enjoy the revenge genre films and yes they all have basically the same premise, especially when it comes to female leads. But the male nudity and 'the women always have to put up a fight' line are the only feminist things that stand out to me. Everything else in the film is your standard rape/revenge type of film.

There was female nudity. Perhaps you dozed off? There was no sniz but there was T & A. How often do you see sniz in a film, anyhow? It's pretty rare.

As far as it being "feminist," the female prevails. But females usually do in these kind of films so I agree, there is not much original in the way this turns out.

Yes, it was incredibly unrealistic but it was still fun to watch.

Ummm from what I remember we never see her ass or her titties...unless you consider thongs and bras and bikinis as that...which I dont. But we do get full frontal dick swinging around. So again, it was not balanced. Jen didnt show any real nudity.

@OddRob said:

Ummm from what I remember we never see her ass or her titties...unless you consider thongs and bras and bikinis as that...which I dont. But we do get full frontal dick swinging around. So again, it was not balanced. Jen didnt show any real nudity.

We do. When the gentleman follows her into the bedroom and watches her change and then proceeds on engaging in non-consensual coitus with her.

@Kewl_Kat said:

@OddRob said:

Ummm from what I remember we never see her ass or her titties...unless you consider thongs and bras and bikinis as that...which I dont. But we do get full frontal dick swinging around. So again, it was not balanced. Jen didnt show any real nudity.

We do. When the gentleman follows her into the bedroom and watches her change and then proceeds on engaging in non-consensual coitus with her.

Well you made me go back and watch that part and you are right, we see her ass and boobs. Happened so fast I completely forgot...not to mention the creeper who rapes her distracted me.

@OddRob said:

@Kewl_Kat said:

@OddRob said:

Ummm from what I remember we never see her ass or her titties...unless you consider thongs and bras and bikinis as that...which I dont. But we do get full frontal dick swinging around. So again, it was not balanced. Jen didnt show any real nudity.

We do. When the gentleman follows her into the bedroom and watches her change and then proceeds on engaging in non-consensual coitus with her.

Well you made me go back and watch that part and you are right, we see her ass and boobs. Happened so fast I completely forgot...not to mention the creeper who rapes her distracted me.

But no sniz.

@Kewl_Kat said:

@OddRob said:

@Kewl_Kat said:

@OddRob said:

Ummm from what I remember we never see her ass or her titties...unless you consider thongs and bras and bikinis as that...which I dont. But we do get full frontal dick swinging around. So again, it was not balanced. Jen didnt show any real nudity.

We do. When the gentleman follows her into the bedroom and watches her change and then proceeds on engaging in non-consensual coitus with her.

Well you made me go back and watch that part and you are right, we see her ass and boobs. Happened so fast I completely forgot...not to mention the creeper who rapes her distracted me.

But no sniz.

Haha no, no sniz. But even if we did it would probably be a Merkin anyway. God forbid we see some vagina lips but people getting butchered is fine.