First things first, glad to see you Stratego still contributing elsewhere after the news from IMDB. Secondly, with the exception of Casey and Steve's death (and maybe Himbry) I always felt that most of the deaths were fairly straight forward as to who did it. It's interesting to read other peoples theories on who did the killings, but for me it's always been logically easy to figure out.

Nice to see you here as well! Hopefully some of the others will join us. Thanks for the reply!

Steve: Stu - The next day, he talks about how to gut someone.

Casey: Stu - I say Stu, because Kevin Williamson has said Stu killed Casey. However, I've always been more inclined to think it was Billy, because the way Billy holds the knife at the end before attempting to stab Sidney mirrors the way the killer holds the knife before stabbing Casey on her front porch. Also, the grunt noise the killer makes before plunging down the knife in said scene sounds like Billy to me. But alas, if Kevin says it's Stu, then I suppose it is Stu. Billy likely made the phone calls.

Sidney Attack: Stu, with Billy making the calls.

Restroom Stall: Billy - He watched Sidney run toward the restroom. The person who puts on the ghostface killer costume is shown wearing dark blue jeans. Billy was wearing the same colored jeans, and Stu was wearing something else. It may have been a prankster, or Roman Dun! Dun! DUUUUNNN!!, but my vote goes to Billy.

Mr. Himbry - It's truly a toss-up. I personally think it's Stu, because the scene right before he's shown talking to Tatum and Sidney about his party, and then he immediately heads back to the school.

Tatum: Billy - He looks guilty as sin when he shows up at the front door really quick startling Sidney and Stu. Also, he looks to be intimating with his eyes that he succeeded in killing Tatum to Stu.

Kenny: Stu - Billy was playing dead with his corn syrup blood upstairs in the bedroom.

Dewey Attack/Chasing Sidney to Jeep: Stu. You could make an argument for Billy, but as soon as Sidney escapes from the Jeep, and runs back to the house, you see Randy running towards her yelling for help, and then Stu follows close behind him. Seems to me that Stu just dumped his costume, and then came running up behind Randy. When Sidney gets back inside the house, Billy comes out of the bedroom and falls down the stairs. I don't see how if it were Billy he would have the time to get back inside the house and up the stairs before Sidney gets back inside. Then again, Billy could have stabbed Dewey in the back, and then Stu took over pulling it out of Dewey's back, and then proceeded to chase Sidney to the Jeep. My vote still goes to Stu on both accounts.

@Stormy86

With the restroom attack I'm going to say it was a prankster. I don't think there was any time for Stu or Billy to put on the costume and enter the bathroom without being seen. The attacker must've been there before Sidney. The scene is also followed by the reporter talking about pranksters.

About Himby, Stu does seem to head back towards the school, but the scene with Himbry clearly takes place later on, when everybody has already left.

For Dewey's attack I'm still saying Billy as there's no way Stu could've seen enough of Gale to conclude she was dead and be at the house to stab Dewey before Sidney was there. I think Billy could've snuck back into the house through the garage after the Jeep attack.

@Stratego!

The restroom scene is so complicated! I can never figure that one out. It definitely could have been a prankster.

Mr. Himbry really could have been either one, especially when you factor in the time. Another reason why I think it is Stu is because he knew it would be a perfect way to get stragglers to leave his party to get back to the master plan of killing Sidney. Stu is clearly the one who makes the call that Mr. Himbry has been killed and hung from the flagpole. That being said, it doesn't prove that Stu killed Himbry. It still could easily have been Billy. Billy definitely seems like the mastermind behind it all, so it would be like him to think ahead on how killing Himbry could work to their advantage. So, he could have just killed Himbry himself, and told Stu to make the call that Randy answered.

It's possible. Billy does seem sort of out of breath when he comes bolting out of the bedroom when Sidney gets back into the house. If Stu was still checking on Gale, and Billy heard Dewey, Billy may have decided to take matters into his own hands. This is very interesting. Also, Stu comes in the direction of where Gale was when he followed behind Randy. You're right, it could have been Billy.

I also want to add that I think Billy and Stu both killed Maureen.

@Stormy86

It's really difficult to tell sometimes!

As for Maureen, yeah, I agree they both had a hand in her murder. I find it hard to believe Stu would come along if he didn't get to spill some blood himself.

I don't really understand how Billy holding the knife is evidence that it was him who killed Casey and not Stu. I'm sure alot of people would hold a knife that way when committing such a horrible act.

@SlickySlixta

It's not evidence in the least, just more of an observation, and something I thought could have shown it was him. But like I said, Kevin Williamson has said it was Stu, so Stu it is. Also, now that I think about it, I said the reason why I think Stu killed Steve was because he talked about how to gut someone the next day. Yes, well, Casey was also gutted, so clearly if what I said about Stu in connection to Steve's murder stands true, then it would for Casey as well. Let's just throw the knife analogy out the window. Okay, so Stu kills both Casey and Steve. Billy is likely making the calls. I wonder.. The first time we see "ghostface" run into the house, he runs in the direction of the stairs. I would assume that means he ran upstairs to search for Casey. But mere moments later we see "ghostface" in the kitchen. I think maybe Stu ran upstairs, but Billy was the one in the kitchen and got hit by Casey with the phone. Then when Casey is running outside and stops to see her parents pulling into the driveway, "ghostface" jumps out at her. I think that would then be Stu having come back downstairs and sees her outside, so he goes crashing through the window after her. After he stabs her repeatedly, he and Billy both hang her in the noose from the tree. Stu then guts her.

@Stormy86 said: Okay, so Stu kills both Casey and Steve. Billy is likely making the calls. I wonder.. The first time we see "ghostface" run into the house, he runs in the direction of the stairs. I would assume that means he ran upstairs to search for Casey. But mere moments later we see "ghostface" in the kitchen. I think maybe Stu ran upstairs, but Billy was the one in the kitchen and got hit by Casey with the phone. Then when Casey is running outside and stops to see her parents pulling into the driveway, "ghostface" jumps out at her. I think that would then be Stu having come back downstairs and sees her outside, so he goes crashing through the window after her. After he stabs her repeatedly, he and Billy both hang her in the noose from the tree. Stu then guts her.

Yep, that's what I think that happened.

@Stormy86 said:

@SlickySlixta

It's not evidence in the least, just more of an observation, and something I thought could have shown it was him. But like I said, Kevin Williamson has said it was Stu, so Stu it is. Also, now that I think about it, I said the reason why I think Stu killed Steve was because he talked about how to gut someone the next day. Yes, well, Casey was also gutted, so clearly if what I said about Stu in connection to Steve's murder stands true, then it would for Casey as well. Let's just throw the knife analogy out the window. Okay, so Stu kills both Casey and Steve. Billy is likely making the calls. I wonder.. The first time we see "ghostface" run into the house, he runs in the direction of the stairs. I would assume that means he ran upstairs to search for Casey. But mere moments later we see "ghostface" in the kitchen. I think maybe Stu ran upstairs, but Billy was the one in the kitchen and got hit by Casey with the phone. Then when Casey is running outside and stops to see her parents pulling into the driveway, "ghostface" jumps out at her. I think that would then be Stu having come back downstairs and sees her outside, so he goes crashing through the window after her. After he stabs her repeatedly, he and Billy both hang her in the noose from the tree. Stu then guts her.

My bad, looking back I actually misread your original post. Interesting observation about Stu looking for Casey upstairs, that would connect the dots in a logical manner. I've never really been quite sure whether Billy was startled when he turned around and came face to face with Casey or he knew she was there all along and was trying to "scare" her if you will. If it was the latter it could have been a potentially foolish move as time was a real factor now as Casey's parents were only up the road. Billy may or may not have seen the car coming from where he was standing but I'm sure both would have known that they couldn't exactly spend all night toying with Casey before they killed her. Not to mention, they had to get back to their girlfriends so they could give them an alibi.

@SlickySlixta

I think Billy was trying to scare her. It would have been a wiser decision to take her by surprise and not give her a chance to react, such as when Stu crashes out the window at her. Billy is the equivalent of a cat playing with a mouse with his intended victims, whereas Stu just goes straight for the kill. This actually convinces me now that Billy killed Mr. Himbry. I always thought it was Stu, but now that I think about it, it seems more like Billy, what with the knocking on the door and all that. I'm also convinced now (Stratego! has been saying this all along) that Billy is the one who stabs Dewey, and chases Sidney to the Jeep. If it were Stu, I think he would have just tried breaking one of the windows, but the killer toys with her by prolonging the element of suspense - a very Billy thing to do. He toys with Tatum as well.

Billy killed Himbry and Tatum, and Stu killed Steve, Casey, and Kenny. I think it's fairly obvious that's how it went.

Billy also made the calls to Casey and Sidney, and then Stu called Sidney when she was at Tatum's house while Billy was locked up. I also believe Stu made a couple calls off-screen; One to Dewey to 'report' the car belonging to Sidney's dad way up the road (so that he would bugger off and not interfere in their plans), and the other to Randy to let him know Himbry had been found hanged and gutted on the football field.

Don't forget that Roman Bridger was about back then and it's more than likely that Billy's mother was there as well.

@littledevil said:

Don't forget that Roman Bridger was about back then and it's more than likely that Billy's mother was there as well.

Roman and Billy's mom were not present in Woodsboro at the time or involved in any of the murders in the first movie.

@Stratego! said:

@littledevil said:

Don't forget that Roman Bridger was about back then and it's more than likely that Billy's mother was there as well.

Roman and Billy's mom were not present in Woodsboro at the time or involved in any of the murders in the first movie.

I find it unlikely that he was not there, Roman explains it all at the end of 3 how he orchestrated the whole thing. he says something along the lines of "All he needed was a little guidance". All roads lead to Rome as they say