Discuss Bird Box

  1. Why not give names to children? It doesn't seem like it would affect survival in any way.

  2. The ending seem way too happy and dream like unrealistic so did they actually drown in the river and this is just flashback when dying which would explain my other two questions.

  3. Why can be they out in yard in daylight safe from monsters, what's so special about it, it was not completely covered with plants.

  4. What are their supplies for so many people living there, how can they grow so much food? It seem unrealistic.

  5. Also why not have children roped to her in river and when walking in forest to avoid getting lost from each other?

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  1. From the beginning of the movie the lead is known to not make connections with people easily. Also she might think that not naming them would make dealing with their loss (in case they die) easier.
  2. They had to go though a lot of trouble even right before they entered the building, I am skeptical they (or whoever) also imagined all that.
  3. Which "yard" are you speaking about? If it's the one in the end it is completely enclosed.
  4. We did not really get to see how they managed. So they might do anything to survive. From large gardens to making the occasional raiding the nearest grocery store.
  5. In a scene the lead actor tells the children to leave and "save themselves" in case she is in danger. The children if tied to the lead actor they might be "roped in" by malicious persons.
  1. people with terminally ill children name their children and they have far shorter life than her children

  2. yes the one in the end your can see sunlight through the leaves/branches

  3. it seem in middle of nowhere in forest, not good for infrastructure or growing vegetables

  4. i am sure they would not have much chance at least in river without her anyway while first time one almost drowned and second time, completely unrealistic they all survived, that's really hard to believe

people with terminally ill children name their children and they have far shorter life than her children

Lead actor is not just people. SHE HAS ISSUES CONNECTING TO PEOPLE. Re-watch the dialogue between "Malorie" and "Jessica". Even "Tom".

yes the one in the end your can see sunlight through the leaves/branches

Are we sure it's not a glass dome? Also it is inhabited by birds so they warn people, there's that.

it seem in middle of nowhere in forest, not good for infrastructure or growing vegetables I am no expert but shouldn't it be easier to grow stuff in a place like a forest? What about edible stuff that's already growing?

second time, completely unrealistic they all survived, that's really hard to believe

I share the feeling with you. In the last drowning, all three of them surviving without a scrape did seem like a miracle. I think the filmmaker just wanted to tense up the audience before the happy ending and there is nothing more to it. I seriously don't see the ending to be imaginary.

3) It was definitely in an enclosed glass dome, otherwise they wouldn't be able to keep those things out, which would make having a door completely pointless.

I'm wondering why dark sunglasses wouldn't work, or why nobody at least tried. Also why did they have to leave the guy alone in the room tied to a chair, surely they could've stayed in with him just not watch the monitor?

@cpheonix said:

3) It was definitely in an enclosed glass dome, otherwise they wouldn't be able to keep those things out, which would make having a door completely pointless.

I'm wondering why dark sunglasses wouldn't work, or why nobody at least tried. Also why did they have to leave the guy alone in the room tied to a chair, surely they could've stayed in with him just not watch the monitor?

glass or no glass makes no difference, point is you could see through those plants

you need to have zero transparency, i don't think there are sunglasses with zero transparency

agreed on leaving him there alone, it makes no sense

@cpheonix said:

Also why did they have to leave the guy alone in the room tied to a chair, surely they could've stayed in with him just not watch the monitor?

What would've been the point of someone staying in the room? It would not have changed the end result.

@cpheonix said:

3) It was definitely in an enclosed glass dome, otherwise they wouldn't be able to keep those things out, which would make having a door completely pointless.

I'm wondering why dark sunglasses wouldn't work, or why nobody at least tried. Also why did they have to leave the guy alone in the room tied to a chair, surely they could've stayed in with him just not watch the monitor?

As you can see the plants sufficiently blocked the sunlight but yes they could have gone foolproof. But it seems to be a lighthouse of sorts. All the vegetation might be impossible without sunlight through the glass.

They figured it might be a long time before anything eventful is gonna happen and went about their way I guess. We might never know. :wink:

@MirrorMask said:

What would've been the point of someone staying in the room? It would not have changed the end result.

Erm...so they could've stopped him trying to kill himself?

@FilmSchool Reject said:

As you can see the plants sufficiently blocked the sunlight but yes they could have gone foolproof. But it seems to be a lighthouse of sorts. All the vegetation might be impossible without sunlight through the glass.

Yeah I was going to say that the plants appeared to the cover the glass dome so although light could get through, the creatures couldn't. And it looked too high to see them.

@cpheonix said:

@MirrorMask said:

What would've been the point of someone staying in the room? It would not have changed the end result.

Erm...so they could've stopped him trying to kill himself?

How? Once he saw it, it would have been too late and prolonging his life would have gotten more people killed.

@MirrorMask said:

How? Once he saw it, it would have been too late and prolonging his life would have gotten more people killed.

Yes, WE, the viewers, knew that. But they didn't.

I asked the question in response to an unrealistic action by the group, not based on what we knew about the creatures after the film.

@cpheonix said:

@MirrorMask said:

How? Once he saw it, it would have been too late and prolonging his life would have gotten more people killed.

Yes, WE, the viewers, knew that. But they didn't.

I asked the question in response to an unrealistic action by the group, not based on what we knew about the creatures after the film.

What are you talking about? At that point everyone knew that once you saw it, you would not stop trying to kill yourself. Maybe one of them hoped he was right about the cameras but they weren't going to risk themselves buy staying in that room.

@MirrorMask said:

@cpheonix said:

@MirrorMask said:

How? Once he saw it, it would have been too late and prolonging his life would have gotten more people killed.

Yes, WE, the viewers, knew that. But they didn't.

I asked the question in response to an unrealistic action by the group, not based on what we knew about the creatures after the film.

What are you talking about? At that point everyone knew that once you saw it, you would not stop trying to kill yourself. Maybe one of them hoped he was right about the cameras but they weren't going to risk themselves buy staying in that room.

What? Nobody else dies if only the person themselves sees the creature. How would they have been at risk? They wouldn't have been by just watching him in the chair. It made no sense for them to leave him in the room and close the door if they were just going to run up and try and stop him anyway (which is what they did).

Also why do you think they tied him to the chair? To stop him trying to kill himself...so again, made no sense they left him in the room. Alone.

@cpheonix said:

@MirrorMask said:

@cpheonix said:

@MirrorMask said:

How? Once he saw it, it would have been too late and prolonging his life would have gotten more people killed.

Yes, WE, the viewers, knew that. But they didn't.

I asked the question in response to an unrealistic action by the group, not based on what we knew about the creatures after the film.

What are you talking about? At that point everyone knew that once you saw it, you would not stop trying to kill yourself. Maybe one of them hoped he was right about the cameras but they weren't going to risk themselves buy staying in that room.

What? Nobody else dies if only the person themselves sees the creature. How would they have been at risk? They wouldn't have been by just watching him in the chair. It made no sense for them to leave him in the room and close the door if they were just going to run up and try and stop him anyway (which is what they did).

Also why do you think they tied him to the chair? To stop him trying to kill himself...so again, made no sense they left him in the room. Alone.

So let me get this straight. You think they should have left him untied and left someone up there to watch him? Correct? In that case he still would have tried to kill himself, would have succeeded and could have hurt anyone that tried to help him. Also, he flipped the computer, so the person in the room would have to close their eyes to prevent seeing anything. So, they would have still be useless.

Yes, tying him to the chair was to prevent him from hurting himself. Which he did anyway, so I don't see any reason why someone needed to be in that room to watch a tied up man kill himself.

If that isn't clear enough, the risk of staying in the room was accidentally seeing what was on the computer once it hit the floor. Or leaving him untied and trying to prevent him from killing himself.

I'm sorry, I just don't understand what you think would have happened if someone stayed with him. I understand that at that point there was still a lot they didn't know, but they all knew that if you saw it you'd want to die.

@MirrorMask said:

You think they should have left him untied

I really didn't say that, did I?

In that case he still would have tried to kill himself, would have succeeded and could have hurt anyone that tried to help him. Also, he flipped the computer, so the person in the room would have to close their eyes to prevent seeing anything. So, they would have still be useless.

Right, so let me get this straight. You're saying they knew he was going to flip the screen which is why they didn't stay in the room? OK...

Yes, tying him to the chair was to prevent him from hurting himself. Which he did anyway, so I don't see any reason why someone needed to be in that room to watch a tied up man kill himself.

Again, from my original response...they would've been there to STOP him trying to kill himself.

If that isn't clear enough, the risk of staying in the room was accidentally seeing what was on the computer once it hit the floor. Or leaving him untied and trying to prevent him from killing himself.

Again, I never said leave him untied. But you are saying they knew he would flip the screen onto the floor for them to see...

I'm sorry, I just don't understand what you think would have happened if someone stayed with him. I understand that at that point there was still a lot they didn't know, but they all knew that if you saw it you'd want to die.

Again and again, there should've been someone in the room to stop him trying to kill himself. Just because they are in the room does not mean they had to also look at the screen.

In any case, clearly we have to agree to disagree. I do miss these debates from the imDb boards. Merry Christmas!

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