Discuss Murder on the Orient Express

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Didn't they change the story? Is everything all the same regarding previous versions of this movie?

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@Harry Skywalker said:

@Renovatio said:

Why perform Shakespeare over and over again? Why not record it once and just have it on streaming?

A big part of cinema is the theatrical experience... Seeing a newly released movie in the theatre is very different than your "tiny" 65 inch TV...

What a terrible analogy.

Why? There is a performance aspect to cinema... it's something that is lost these days given the ease of streaming on phones and tablets and the decent size of TVs, but the theatrical experience is important and is distinct...

Why not have both? Why not release the original 1970s movie in theatre again, as has been done with Alien, Titanic and Terminator 2? Why not have a remake where the ending is changed as well as a remake with the same, unchanged ending?

I don't see why this has to be an either/or choice...

@Harry Skywalker said:

And these kind of movies are awesome due to their unexpected endings. Putting everything the same is ludicrous and redundant.

@Harry Skywalker said:

Poirot movies have the particular aspect of the endings being the best and most exciting parts of the movies.

So you want the best bit changed?

Someone with better knowledge of Christie adaptations than me will probably be able to give a more definitive answer, but I suspect that very few adaptations change the "whodunnit".

@Harry Skywalker said:

No, it's YOUR Post that makes absolutely no sense.

Compare:

@M. LeMarchand said:

If you want to watch something original, why are you bothering with remakes and adaptations?

^ Makes sense.

@Harry Skywalker said:

I just don't want copy-pastes of older movies. Then why bothering with remakes?

And you just mentioned adaptations... You know that you just proved I was right, right?

^ Does not make sense.

@Renovatio said:

@Harry Skywalker said:

@Renovatio said:

Why perform Shakespeare over and over again? Why not record it once and just have it on streaming?

A big part of cinema is the theatrical experience... Seeing a newly released movie in the theatre is very different than your "tiny" 65 inch TV...

What a terrible analogy.

Why? There is a performance aspect to cinema... it's something that is lost these days given the ease of streaming on phones and tablets and the decent size of TVs, but the theatrical experience is important and is distinct...

Why not have both? Why not release the original 1970s movie in theatre again, as has been done with Alien, Titanic and Terminator 2? Why not have a remake where the ending is changed as well as a remake with the same, unchanged ending?

I don't see why this has to be an either/or choice...

I've already explained to you: repeating exactly the same thing over and over makes it totally predictable and redundant.

@M. LeMarchand said:

@Harry Skywalker said:

And these kind of movies are awesome due to their unexpected endings. Putting everything the same is ludicrous and redundant.

@Harry Skywalker said:

Poirot movies have the particular aspect of the endings being the best and most exciting parts of the movies.

So you want the best bit changed?

Someone with better knowledge of Christie adaptations than me will probably be able to give a more definitive answer, but I suspect that very few adaptations change the "whodunnit".

@Harry Skywalker said:

No, it's YOUR Post that makes absolutely no sense.

Compare:

@M. LeMarchand said:

If you want to watch something original, why are you bothering with remakes and adaptations?

^ Makes sense.

@Harry Skywalker said:

I just don't want copy-pastes of older movies. Then why bothering with remakes?

And you just mentioned adaptations... You know that you just proved I was right, right?

^ Does not make sense.

No, what you said made absolutely no sense.

Why not changing the ending bit? Why being always the same thing?

These are ADAPTATIONS. Adaptations get changed every time. This should be no different.

Yeah, what you say makes no sense.

@Harry Skywalker said:

Why not changing the ending bit? Why being always the same thing?

Are you sure you're not actually Harry Yoda?

@Harry Skywalker said:

These are ADAPTATIONS. Adaptations get changed every time. This should be no different.

It was. Poirot's moustache, physicality, and the mystery photo as well as the intro and a few character changes. Most of which people complained about.

@M. LeMarchand said:

@Harry Skywalker said:

Why not changing the ending bit? Why being always the same thing?

Are you sure you're not actually Harry Yoda?

@Harry Skywalker said:

These are ADAPTATIONS. Adaptations get changed every time. This should be no different.

It was. Poirot's moustache, physicality, and the mystery photo as well as the intro and a few character changes. Most of which people complained about.

Are you sure you're not actually Phillipe LeCharade?

And no, it wasn't.

You two behave like sad, broken people.

@myposofr said:

You two behave like sad, broken people.

Thank you.

I prefer to think of myself as Damaged, though.

@myposofr said:

You two behave like sad, broken people.

And you do behave like an imbecile.

You know, I have seen many versions of different versions of Murder on the Orient Express. And this is the first time i had any real sympathy for the killers. By the end i though these people have suffered enough. So I think the ending was fine for the tone the movie was going for.

Imo there is a quite profound difference in Hercule Poirot and what drives his final motivation. Indeed the outcome and I suppose the conclusion is near the original work and so bring not much new. But what finally motivated Hercule is different and I dare say more deep than even Agatha may ever have had in mind... so if you are a fan of the story, I think you should enjoy it for this reason alone.. Imo it is not better than the original, but it is different enough to be interesting.

I'll try to watch the movie in the near future.

@Harry Skywalker said:

I'll try to watch the movie in the near future.

If you can stomach the ending; you'll probably like the movie.

@thebarnman said:

@Harry Skywalker said:

I'll try to watch the movie in the near future.

If you can stomach the ending; you'll probably like the movie.

I know how it's gonna end. I've already seen these story before.

@Harry Skywalker said:

I know how it's gonna end. I've already seen these story before.

Maybe my typed words didn't translate well with what I'm trying to say. Now that I look at it; it can surely be deciphered in a couple different ways so I'll be clear.

SPOLIER

The way in which every person; one at a time; at the end of the movie is depicted all lined up; stabbing the victim one right after the other is the most utter bit of nonsense I've ever seen in a movie.

Maybe it read better in a book.

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