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This doesn't look very good. Read some reviews, and it seems Aronovsky went overboard with this.

Think one of the bigger questions is: Do they play Danzig in any of the scenes? I have a feeling they do.

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I can see why it’s such a polarising movie but for me it’s my fav for the year (so far). It got inside my head and making sense of it was rewarding. Loved the performances, story and themes. Can’t wait to see it again

It's batshit crazy. Disorientating, annoying and kind of amazing at the same time. Really hard one to make sense of. Worth watching for that reason alone.

Ultimately I thought it becomes too messy for it's own good but there are definitely some good points in it as well.

I'm trying to go for an engaging, funny youtube channel so, if you have the time, take a look. Hope you enjoy what you see. Thanks in advance. A review of the movie here- https://youtu.be/NVoWkfpcMs8

It's the best movie I've seen this year. Anyone who walked out has their reasons and anyone calling it awful maybe just didn't get it. I recommend seeing for yourself to judge.

Without a doubt, this was the most interesting movie I've seen so far this year. It is also a masterpiece, rarely do major studios produce a movie like this, and even rarer that it has "A" list actors. Jennifer Lawrence gave her most impressive performance and Javier Bardem was perfection.

It was not a coincidence that the kitchen sink became an element of contention for Lawrence and her unruly guests. In the third act, the "kitchen sink" became metaphorical. I think it is too soon to judge if this is a messy movie; it needs to sink in.

@BLADE_RUNNER said:

Without a doubt, this was the most interesting movie I've seen so far this year. It is also a masterpiece, rarely do major studios produce a movie like this, and even rarer that it has "A" list actors. Jennifer Lawrence gave her most impressive performance and Javier Bardem was perfection.

It was not a coincidence that the kitchen sink became an element of contention for Lawrence and her unruly guests. In the third act, the "kitchen sink" became metaphorical. I think it is too soon to judge if this is a messy movie; it needs to sink in.

Exactly. For anyone who hasn't seen it, you really can't judge without knowing what you're talking about.

If you've seen it, and you're calling it messy...then do some reading to figure out what you missed. I thought it was pretty obvious though and it was spelled out pretty well.

Do they play Danzig's "Mother" at any time during the movie? I could see it easily being included in this movie for obvious reasons. It seems like a no brainer. Just curious.

@Heisenberg12 said:

Do they play Danzig's "Mother" at any time during the movie? I could see it easily being included in this movie for obvious reasons. It seems like a no brainer. Just curious.

They do not. I joked with my friends that it was just 2 hours of JLaw listening to Danzig, but it's not played at all during the movie.

With all the pedestrian crap out there, Mother is an epic WTF flick. Totally out there! A freaky fairy tale. I enjoyed it.`

@WalkenOnSunshine said:

It's the best movie I've seen this year. Anyone who walked out has their reasons and anyone calling it awful maybe just didn't get it. I recommend seeing for yourself to judge.

i thought it was a simbolism for an artist and the people who lives with them... and how much they suffer trying to be supportive in their lifestyles... but i read somewhere that it's not the case and that the real interpretation is something biblical... could you please explain it to me, cuz i really didnt get it at all

@xbxoxy said:

could you please explain it to me, cuz i really didnt get it at all

Basically as soon as you clock that the eponymous Mother! is mother nature, the rest is obvious. This is the way Aronofsky describes it:

"We are telling the story of Mother Nature turning into a female energy, and we defile the earth. We call her dirt. We don’t clean up after our mess. We drill in her. We cut down her forests. We take without giving back. That’s what the movie is.” Referencing Hurricane Irma, which was touching down in Florida as the film premiered, Aronofsky added, “Naomi Klein, one of the great eco-feminist out there, sent me a text yesterday, talking about the irony of the film premiering yesterday with what’s happening right now in America.”

This is the full explainer: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/09/darren-aronofsky-explains-mother

@silverhawkins said:

@xbxoxy said:

could you please explain it to me, cuz i really didnt get it at all

Basically as soon as you clock that the eponymous Mother! is mother nature, the rest is obvious. This is the way Aronofsky describes it:

"We are telling the story of Mother Nature turning into a female energy, and we defile the earth. We call her dirt. We don’t clean up after our mess. We drill in her. We cut down her forests. We take without giving back. That’s what the movie is.” Referencing Hurricane Irma, which was touching down in Florida as the film premiered, Aronofsky added, “Naomi Klein, one of the great eco-feminist out there, sent me a text yesterday, talking about the irony of the film premiering yesterday with what’s happening right now in America.”

This is the full explainer: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/09/darren-aronofsky-explains-mother

Thanks! I'll give it a read

@xbxoxy said:

@WalkenOnSunshine said:

It's the best movie I've seen this year. Anyone who walked out has their reasons and anyone calling it awful maybe just didn't get it. I recommend seeing for yourself to judge.

i thought it was a simbolism for an artist and the people who lives with them... and how much they suffer trying to be supportive in their lifestyles... but i read somewhere that it's not the case and that the real interpretation is something biblical... could you please explain it to me, cuz i really didnt get it at all

It's both... as well as some other elements... the first half or so is very much like a psychological thriller or a relationship driven drama...

At that point you don't know where the movie will go, will it play it mostly straight with some magical realism thrown in, will it turn into a supernatural horror movie, or something else? .. It was great when it went full on biblical

I liked it a lot more than I expected to and I enjoyed the ambiguity and confusion of the first half of the movie... I think on second viewings it will seem less ambigiuous and more clearly metaphorical much earlier in the movie... i have only seen it once, but might take some friends to watch it again soon.

I missed my chance to see Aronofsky's "Pi" when it came to town...but made sure to see it as soon as I could.

Enjoyed every film of his afterward in some fashion or other. Until "Noah" which was dreadful rubbish as expected.

I only saw "mother!" out of curiosity, or because of the director's previous works hitting notes w/ me. Not this time again. Starts off intriguing, but quickly deteriorates into boredom which is not alleviated. Except when the proceedings begin to teeter-totter wildly like a wedding cake in a windstorm...when the allegorical aspects are shoved in your face like boxing gloves. Bam, boom, blap, what gives?

I understand this film to be about the Biblical story of creation, of Man vs. Earth (and Women, or perhaps Leaky Faucets.) I understand there's more going on here than just Tideland-like physical representations of just how screwed up mankind is pretending to be Earth's stewards. There's also the dynamic of artist/muse and people being too loud and obsessed w/ celebrity.

But no matter how gruesome or bizarre or frenetic...the tedium is always there. Unlike a solid point for all this brash nonsense, which resembles a horror-film version of the stateroom scene from Monkey Business. The only time things move forward is when the insanity piles up like clowns tumbling from a car in reverse. J-Law is game, but everyone else either downplays their parts, or acts as if unsure what the heck they're supposed to do. I give someone credit for mounting the chaotic scenes in the second 1/2 of this garish flick...but to Aronofsky I again have to ask what the hell's he been smoking since Black Swan?

Movies should be entertaining, enlightening, thought-provoking...being weird for weird's sake isn't a good way to get a message across, assuming there was one to put forth that wasn't ham-fist black and white dogmatism. "mother!" succeeds at being a conversation-starter, but anyone praising this is challenged to watch it as often as they would something truly appreciable and memorable for reasons not due to the innate wackiness in this off-putting film...which always threatens to put the viewer into a coma before something happens again.

it helped to have read before hand that it was a bible allegory. frankly i think i would have been too overwhelmed by what i was seeing to have put that together by myself if i had gone in "blind". with that knowledge, i found it thoroughly enjoyable and got a thrill out of putting the metaphors together. i see several rewatches in my future, to pick up what i missed. on first viewing.

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