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Peter Travers of Rolling Stone magazine said this may be the GOAT
posted by Heisenberg12STAFFMOD on July 18, 2017 at 4:40 PM
..of war movies.
Anyone see it to confirm? What did you think?
Reply by MuffinMcFluffin
on July 19, 2017 at 4:44 AM
It's such a unique take on the "genre" (if you will). If there were many other movies like this, then I wouldn't say that it does anything revolutionary. Nolan really pulls all the stops and executes greatly, and it is a cinematic triumph for IMAX screens. I do not think it can take any unanimous GOAT billings, though. I really do think it's great nonetheless.
I do like how it stands out, though. It is very good.
Reply by Rtodd110
on July 21, 2017 at 12:56 AM
that is pretty bold to say and I highly doubt it is the greatest of all time. Also, is anyone else a bit tired of seeing every movie in the upper 90s these days? spider man was fun, but not an A plus fucking movie. Rotten tomatoes scoring is off and I have stopped using it as a reference. Anyway, excited to see it and curious to hear what others think, but I don't think I will come out giving it the greatest of all time medal.
Reply by MuffinMcFluffin
on July 21, 2017 at 1:03 AM
I certainly didn't say GOAT. Maybe Travers did, but don't come away expecting that. You may just be disappointed.
As for Rotten Tomatoes, make sure you know how it works. The Tomatometer is just a percentage of who approved of the film out of the total number of reviewers. If 92% of people say they liked Spider-Man, who is going to refute that? That makes total sense to me.
The thing you have to pay closer attention to are the average rating scores. Currently, Spider-Man: Homecoming has a 7.6/10, and Dunkirk has an 8.8/10.
If you can't make the correct inferences based on their rating system, that is actually your problem and not theirs.
Reply by Charlton
on July 21, 2017 at 1:55 AM
It's a British war film pulling on heartstrings of course you're going to hear cringe worthy hysterical over praise and worship.
Reply by MuffinMcFluffin
on July 21, 2017 at 1:56 AM
There were also prays and warship.
Reply by Charlton
on July 21, 2017 at 1:59 AM
That too, we need more prays and warship.
Reply by Lenny/Mosko
on July 21, 2017 at 8:39 PM
Good. Not great.
Reply by Heisenberg12
on July 22, 2017 at 8:13 PM
I'm back after just watching it.
It's great. A visual masterpiece. One of the best war movies I've seen.
Reply by Lenny/Mosko
on July 22, 2017 at 11:56 PM
Considering Nolan is receiving praise for accuracy, it seemed to me that it just didn't look right. The following personal account shows the movie was much too sterile for the number of men and the chaos going on. Dunkirk was under almost constant attack, even though the advance had been halted, the British, French and Belgian troops were battle weary, yet we just see small lines of men standing on the beach, the odd German airplane or rifle shots and some smoke in the distance. Otherwise, everything seemed untouched by battle. Very unrealistic...http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/dunkirk.htm
Reply by MuffinMcFluffin
on July 23, 2017 at 12:35 AM
So they won't get a Best Production Design Oscar. Sorry the beaches were too clean. Anything else you want to focus on?
Reply by Rtodd110
on July 23, 2017 at 2:02 AM
oh hey MuffinMcFluffin, I was referring to Travers saying it may be the GOAT of war films.
Reply by MuffinMcFluffin
on July 23, 2017 at 2:03 AM
Got it, thanks!
Reply by Rtodd110
on July 23, 2017 at 2:09 AM
going to see it in IMAX 70mm tomorrow, super excited. Nolan makes great movies, and regardless of how it compares to other war movies I am sure it will be a hell of an experience.
but yea right off the bat, movies like patton, come and see, schindler's list, hell even the new hacksaw ridge, that is one hard #1 spot to fill.
Reply by illnagas
on July 23, 2017 at 12:34 PM
yeesh GOAT? I'll have to read his review and reconsider the movie. I liked it, but it felt more like an amusement park ride than great war movie.
Reply by Horus Mazinga
on July 23, 2017 at 1:20 PM
It is an odd mix of great and bad directing. I liked it but there is quite a bit to complain about.
It starts with some mystifying bullet point graphics like "1. The Mole. One Week" and continues on pace with a few more then forgets all about that and never does it again. Even while doing it, it was confusing.
They managed to keep me interested with the duo that are trying everything they can to escape the beach but that lost its focus and dried up. On the other side of the dramatic interest coin we had the one boat coming to help. On it there is a mortally wounded young man who's plight fails to interest even in the slightest. Even the circumstances of his injury are dodgy.
It was often difficult to tell who was who in the fighters and sometimes the shore guys.
There were many excellent scenes that really showcase Nolan's expertise and that kept this movie in the "good" category but it has too many flaws to make it GOAT. Never mind the historic accuracy. (IMMSMC, it was supposed to be the largest air battle of WWII and there were hundreds of civilian ships helping instead of what looked like about 30)
Nolan is very good at many things but sometimes is equally bad at the these very things he excels at. Still, I enjoyed it.