And that is saying something. Some Bond entries have been really bad. This is stupid and badly made in just about every way you could think.
For example, Bond 'jokes' have almost always been groaners, but here they are not only shockers but occur exactly where a joke shouldn't be. In the middle of an action scene? This is from professional writers ffs.
Entire plot elements recycled from previous movies, and not even the better bits. And then ridiculous things like gene rebuilding, invisible cars and magic death rays thrown in. Parts of the story make zero sense at all. Why for example does Moon need to go the west and create a new identity? Is there a reason that a nose and eye job won't do the trick? The gene transfer is excruciatingly painful and means you will never sleep again. Why does Tang go thru the same procedure yet it only changes his eye colour? And the diamonds are left in his face. That's sort of a dead giveaway as to his identity. I can't think of a reason why diamonds would need to stay in his face or why they wouldn't be the first thing he'd have fixed. Why can't Moon build his death ray in North Korea, he is, after all going back there at the end of the movie. What is Frost's motivation? There is some reference to Moon turning her when the winner of the fencing Olympic gold medal was killed, but, wait, wtf, what has that to do with anything? Later M says it was significant that they were on the same fencing team at Harvard. Again, wtf? How does that make you a traitor and a murderer? Why is Frost in a bikini top on a military flight to North Korea of all places? The stupidity just goes on and on and on and I could go on and on listing all the reasons why this is such a bad movie.
I get it that it's a Bond film and meant to be fantastical, But jeez, there are limits and this movie is just insulting.
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Adamからの返信
投稿:2021年10月13日 9:21 AM
No, Die Another Day had better box office than Scooby Doo.
Adamからの返信
投稿:2021年10月13日 9:27 AM
Die Another Day was more successful than Signs.
Midi-chlorian_Countからの返信
投稿:2021年10月13日 9:30 AM
I'm sure I mentioned this earlier in thread but the weird thing is that DAD was the biggest grossing Bond film (non inflation) ever at the time of its release. Casino Royale only made very marginally more (albeit on a slightly cheaper budget - probably down to cheap Craig salary compared with Brosnan) despite it having the hype of a new Bond and the "groundbreaking" grittier take on Bond.
So the retconned viewpoint that people were tired of Brosnan and more fantastical / glamorous / whatever Bond films simply doesn't stand up.
Jacinto Cupboardからの返信
投稿:2021年10月13日 9:50 AM
For a few years OHMSS was the best performed Bond movie, inflation adjusted; a point Lazenby used to make, probably because it doesn't make many people's list of favourite Bond movies and he was shitcanned for it for decades.
Buying a ticket to a movie doesn't mean people walked away from it fully satisfied either. I remember taking my then GF to see Never Say Never Again. It was a date movie. It just happened to be a better option than whatever else was showing at the time. Similarly, lots of people complained about The Rise of Skywalker. One assumes they had bought tickets. So buying a ticket isn't like a vote for the movie.
The Craig movies certainly looked like they had more money spent on production. Pretty much all the earlier Bond movies looked cheap even if the sets were vast. DAD made a fortune on product placement, but the SFX and sets still look cheap. Beats me how you can spend that much money on a movie and have it coming out looking that bad.
Fwiw, CR made 200 million more than DAD.
Midi-chlorian_Countからの返信
投稿:2021年10月13日 11:00 AM
Weird, apologies, not quite $200m but it was significantly more. Think I must have looked here:-https://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchise/fr2605158149/?ref_=bo_frs_table_10
When I had that in mind. Must be US domestic...
Funnily enough OHMSS is one of my all time favourite Bonds, even although it's pretty muted in terms of the humour / gadgets and possibly the closest to Craig's tone asides from the awful Dalton efforts.
JustinJackFlashからの返信
投稿:2021年10月13日 12:38 PM
Jesus, dude. How come you kept watching all those films if you obviously weren't enjoying them very much?
Adamからの返信
投稿:2021年10月13日 8:36 PM
Civilians in populous towns most of the villain's lairs aren't under the New York subway have you ever watched a single Bond film? You not knowing where the Bond villains plot their plans is more ridiculous than a fleet of invisible cars.
Jacinto Cupboardからの返信
投稿:2021年10月13日 9:28 PM
5 stars is a pass mark for me. It means if someone asked, I would say it was worth a look. I don't usually comment on movies that I rate less than a 5, and more often than not I will not see that movie to the end unless there is a reason. Two reasons would be:
JustinJackFlashからの返信
投稿:2021年10月14日 11:12 AM
I see. I tend to give 5s to films I saw as ok meself. Seen as the number is slap bang in the middle. And yeah, I have watched bad films for similar reasons.