According to Ford, it's suppose to be about liberation. These women are free from social constructs and expectations. What we see as ugly and explicit is to them a symbol of freedom of joy. This is contrasted with Susan who deals in this sort of artistic work but is forever trapped within her own social expectations of her life. The irony is that she gave up that sort of liberty to be in this world where she is constantly miserable and depressed where she can only observe that sort of freedom in the art she collects.
According to Ford, it's suppose to be about liberation. These women are free from social constructs and expectations. What we see as ugly and explicit is to them a symbol of freedom of joy. This is contrasted with Susan who deals in this sort of artistic work but is forever trapped within her own social expectations of her life. The irony is that she gave up that sort of liberty to be in this world where she is constantly miserable and depressed where she can only observe that sort of freedom in the art she collects.
I stopped watching after the daughter flipped off the hillbillies. It was clear at that point that both the mother and the daughter will be raped and murdered. I don't have the stomach for that kind of stuff.
I stopped watching after the daughter flipped off the hillbillies. It was clear at that point that both the mother and the daughter will be raped and murdered. I don't have the stomach for that kind of stuff.
yeah that struck me as unnecessarily hostile on the daughter's part. not that it justified rape and murder.
i disagree. anyone who visits a discussion forum for a film they have not seen should expect to get spoiled imo (the exception being if the film has not been released yet).
I stopped watching after the daughter flipped off the hillbillies. It was clear at that point that both the mother and the daughter will be raped and murdered. I don't have the stomach for that kind of stuff.
OT, but had to say: clever use of font color and HTML! Well done!
I think it was meant to illicite that reaction... Also, it was meant to show how meaningless Susan's work had become to her... She even called it trash...
It's meant to be repulsive and empty, but in a way that could also pass as the kind of conceptual, de-skilled, contemporary art that is well received in the art community... 😎
I thought it was a great shot, but have to admit that I stopped eating my snacks! 😂
I do like Vingo's post above about how it represents liberation and freedom to be true to one's self in a way that Susan had denied herself... The discussion about her brother who came out of the closet was another point where this idea of being true to one's self came up in the movie... But Susan was more idealistic about it at that time as she was younger and had not yet had to make the choice between her social status and lifestyle and what her heart wanted...
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Відповідь від lindewell
21 лютого 2017, 1:03 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
It's the artistic creations of Susan, and it's ugly, that's why she is disgusted by what she is doing.
Відповідь від Daddie0
26 лютого 2017, 11:16 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
Most awkward opening to a film ever? Pretentious film-making?
Відповідь від Vingo
6 березня 2017, 6:16 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
According to Ford, it's suppose to be about liberation. These women are free from social constructs and expectations. What we see as ugly and explicit is to them a symbol of freedom of joy. This is contrasted with Susan who deals in this sort of artistic work but is forever trapped within her own social expectations of her life. The irony is that she gave up that sort of liberty to be in this world where she is constantly miserable and depressed where she can only observe that sort of freedom in the art she collects.
Відповідь від MrsBuckyBarnes
6 березня 2017, 6:19 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
i prefer daddie0's answer :D
Відповідь від violet75
22 березня 2017, 5:20 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
All I know is it should have had a warning. Very gross.
Відповідь від tmdb57932021
22 березня 2017, 6:22 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
Yes. I felt a little bit raped. It went on forever too. And for some reason, i really have no idea why, i couldn't turn away.
Відповідь від violet75
23 березня 2017, 11:23 НОЧІ/РАНКУ
I told people it was like 10 min of slow mo and I too, had a hard time looking away. To top it off.. the moive was kinda pointless too.
Відповідь від tmdb57932021
23 березня 2017, 6:47 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
I stopped watching after the daughter flipped off the hillbillies. It was clear at that point that both the mother and the daughter will be raped and murdered. I don't have the stomach for that kind of stuff.
Відповідь від MrsBuckyBarnes
24 березня 2017, 4:29 НОЧІ/РАНКУ
yeah that struck me as unnecessarily hostile on the daughter's part. not that it justified rape and murder.
Відповідь від tmdb57932021
24 березня 2017, 12:15 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
i think spoiler warning would have been appropriate here...?
Відповідь від MrsBuckyBarnes
24 березня 2017, 7:17 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
i disagree. anyone who visits a discussion forum for a film they have not seen should expect to get spoiled imo (the exception being if the film has not been released yet).
Відповідь від Daddie0
29 березня 2017, 3:11 НОЧІ/РАНКУ
OT, but had to say: clever use of font color and HTML! Well done!
Відповідь від tmdb57932021
29 березня 2017, 11:09 НОЧІ/РАНКУ
Thank you, Daddie0!
Відповідь від Renovatio
2 червня 2018, 8:13 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
I think it was meant to illicite that reaction... Also, it was meant to show how meaningless Susan's work had become to her... She even called it trash...
It's meant to be repulsive and empty, but in a way that could also pass as the kind of conceptual, de-skilled, contemporary art that is well received in the art community... 😎
I thought it was a great shot, but have to admit that I stopped eating my snacks! 😂
I do like Vingo's post above about how it represents liberation and freedom to be true to one's self in a way that Susan had denied herself... The discussion about her brother who came out of the closet was another point where this idea of being true to one's self came up in the movie... But Susan was more idealistic about it at that time as she was younger and had not yet had to make the choice between her social status and lifestyle and what her heart wanted...