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Is it just me or is this movie starting to look terrible?

I love Marvel, I've seen nearly all of their last 10 movies or so in theaters, but I am getting a really bad feeling about Captain Marvel. They are really leaning into this "strong female character" virtue signaling and that's always a bad sign as evidenced by Ghostbusters, it tells me they can't sell the movie on just being good, they have to try and imply if you don't see it or aren't excited about it you must hate women. The images I've seen look blah and Brie Larson just does not seem like a good fit for this role let alone what she's been saying on social media.

Conversely I never got this feeling with the Wonder Woman movie, and of course movies like Atomic Blonde or Mad Max Fury Road weren't sold on female empowerment even though both films had fantastic female characters and could have easily tried to hype that aspect.

There's a new saying "Get Woke Go Broke" which means that whenever a movie/show/book tries to sell you on how it's so pro woman/gay/trans/minority/whatever while not selling the story or characters then it's pretty much confirmed to be trash and no one buys it. I really hope I'm wrong but I fear the MCU is going to fall into this trap and go the way of Disney Star Wars.

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NEVERMIND..I AGREE NOW..CHICKS ARE GARBAGE.THEY SHOULDNT BE THE LEAD IN OUR MAN MOVIES,AND THEY REALLY SHOULDNT BE HAVING OPINIONS OR STATING THEM OUT LOUD ,I MEAN ITS LIKE THEY ARENT EVEN REAL PEOPLE.IF YOU DONT HAVE A DICK AND THE PERSPECTIVE OF AN ANGRY TEENAGE BOY YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED OUT OF OUR KITCHENS AND OUR BEDS.OH BUT WAIT NOTHING PERSONAL.ILL USE NUMBERS AND HALF ASSED COVER THEORIES TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE IM NOT A REPRESSED DOUCHEBAG FROM A 90S PARTY FLICK.

THANK YOU FOR CONVINCING ME HOW MEN ROCK AND WOMEN SUCK AND THATS NOT THE POINT EVEN IF IT IS.

Im sorry numbers and facts confuse you. Im also sorry my opinion on this film has caused you mental anguish. But Im glad you finally see the light! Wamen are sub human creatures that deserve to be enslaved and treated like property. No rights, heck lets not even let them drive anymore. That was sarcasm in case you didnt get it. No one hates Captain Marvel for being a wamen. People hate Captain Marvel AKA Larson for being a racist and sexist piece of shit. And I think the scary numbers will reflect that when the final product comes out.

Don't feed the troll.

@A-Dubya said:

Don't feed the troll.

Agreed.

We've all fed the OP so much he must be obese!

@Gus Gorman said:

@A-Dubya said:

Don't feed the troll.

Agreed.

We've all fed the OP so much he must be obese!

Actually, I meant the person typing in all caps.

So I found this on another board. I think it pretty much sums up the state of Hollywood right now.

'From now on when Hollywood senses they have a stinker on their hands, they're going to gin up some stupid "alt-right incels HATE THIS" straw man controversy, and then they will push this contrived narrative that their shit flick is "under attack" by "white males" and rely upon their friends in the MSM to talk endlessly about said contrived controversy (rather than the normal positive word of mouth or, God forbid, actual paid promotion) to hype their piece of crap, and then when it finally is released, they figure they'll get a few sympathy ticket sales from SJWs who've bought the false narrative hook line and sinker and don't care that it's hot garbage, and they then wrap the whole slow-motion train wreck up by claiming "it wasn't our fault the film under-performed, it was those damn MAGA jerks!" so as to deflect all blame or suggestion of failure from themselves, you know kinda like what they learned to do with that Ghostbusters shit they put out a few years ago and what now seems to be their model for how to unveil crap to the public.'

Pretty much dead on I would say. Its going to be the formula moving forward. They tested it with Ghostbusters 2016 and than Star Wars and now Captain Marvel. Except the MCU isnt at the point that SW is right now. Even if this does flop, which I dont think it will, just under perform a little. Endgame will bring them back to the billion club. The MCU needs two or three major flops for them to realize they are going in the wrong direction, just like SW did. But that will take a few years I believe. Anyway, Im looking forward to the stand alone Black Widow film, you know the one that the fans have been asking for years for. Wonder if ScarJo is going to bring politics/gender/race issues into it as much as Larson has. Time will tell.

"From now on when Hollywood senses they have a stinker on their hands"

Early buzz is showing this is hardly a stinker.

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/captain-marvel-reviews-first-reactions-1203143894/

Also Marvel/Disney hasn't made movie that has not been well received since the Incredible Hulk (well there was the Inhumans but that was Ike Perlmutter's Marvel TV). Even their works movies, at most gets a it's good/decent review from the critics, and still makes a sizable profit. The whole Get Woke Go Broke premise of this thread is simply retarded.

@A-Dubya said:

@Gus Gorman said:

@A-Dubya said:

Don't feed the troll.

Agreed.

We've all fed the OP so much he must be obese!

Actually, I meant the person typing in all caps.

Thank you for that. One of my favorite characters from the last few years is Furiosa from Fury Road. I love all good well written well acted characters including female ones, but if Charlize Theron had marketed that film as some kind of feminist activist crap to show women are way better than men while saying negative things about men at every opportunity then I wouldn't have seen that movie.

If you are selling a product you can't say awful things about the majority of your customer base and expect them to show up and hand over their money. Anyone who doesn't understand this is a fool.

IVE BEEN A MOVIE LOVER SINCE I WAS IN GRADE SCHOOL,I WATCH 3 TO 4 FILMS A DAY,I OWN ALMOST 20,000 TITLES IN MY OWN LIBRARY,AND I ENJOY DISCUSSING MOVIES....BUT..I LIKE CAPS ON MY LETTERS SO IM A TROLL...YOU SIR ARE A DUMBASS.

@Innovator said:

"From now on when Hollywood senses they have a stinker on their hands"

Early buzz is showing this is hardly a stinker.

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/captain-marvel-reviews-first-reactions-1203143894/

Also Marvel/Disney hasn't made movie that has not been well received since the Incredible Hulk (well there was the Inhumans but that was Ike Perlmutter's Marvel TV). Even their works movies, at most gets a it's good/decent review from the critics, and still makes a sizable profit. The whole Get Woke Go Broke premise of this thread is simply retarded.

When you go from projected 180-160 to 100 million there is chance that it might not do as well as expected. Ant-Man and the Wasp and the Thor films didnt do to hot either. So the MCU isnt bulletproof. This film will be a critical success with a 98% RT rating, but that dosent mean much when all the critics know if they give it a bad review they will be labeled as misogynistic racist pigs. I want to see what the audience thinks. This wont go broke, but I dont think it will perform as well as SJWs want it to. Larson isnt exactly putting on a welcoming face for all races and sexes. And Marvel isnt reigning her in at all.

@OddRob said:

When you go from projected 180-160 to 100 million there is chance that it might not do as well as expected. Ant-Man and the Wasp and the Thor films didnt do to hot either. So the MCU isnt bulletproof. This film will be a critical success with a 98% RT rating, but that dosent mean much when all the critics know if they give it a bad review they will be labeled as misogynistic racist pigs. I want to see what the audience thinks. This wont go broke, but I dont think it will perform as well as SJWs want it to. Larson isnt exactly putting on a welcoming face for all races and sexes. And Marvel isnt reigning her in at all.

I think you make a good point, it's Marvel so it might not bomb, but I think it will underperform big time. Ant-Man and the Wasp came out on the high of Infinity War and opened with $75 mill so I expect Captain Marvel to open below that, maybe $60-ish, and if the audience word of mouth is bad it's going to drop like a rock and have no legs and might break even depending on the budget. It is most likely going to rely on overseas markets.

The point being though, it would be on track to open much bigger if the trailers had been better and if its star had kept her toxic "activism" out of it

@cswood said:

@OddRob said:

When you go from projected 180-160 to 100 million there is chance that it might not do as well as expected. Ant-Man and the Wasp and the Thor films didnt do to hot either. So the MCU isnt bulletproof. This film will be a critical success with a 98% RT rating, but that dosent mean much when all the critics know if they give it a bad review they will be labeled as misogynistic racist pigs. I want to see what the audience thinks. This wont go broke, but I dont think it will perform as well as SJWs want it to. Larson isnt exactly putting on a welcoming face for all races and sexes. And Marvel isnt reigning her in at all.

I think you make a good point, it's Marvel so it might not bomb, but I think it will underperform big time. Ant-Man and the Wasp came out on the high of Infinity War and opened with $75 mill so I expect Captain Marvel to open below that, maybe $60-ish, and if the audience word of mouth is bad it's going to drop like a rock and have no legs and might break even depending on the budget. It is most likely going to rely on overseas markets.

The point being though, it would be on track to open much bigger if the trailers had been better and if its star had kept her toxic "activism" out of it

Agreed. But I think it will break 100 million opening easy. If I had to put a number on it I would say around 120 million opening weekend. Unless something goes really south, like a tape of Larson calling all white males to not see the film because its not made for them or some shit. But I think you are right about the word of mouth, its either going to make it or break it. And Im not talking about the shills known as critics word either. And if they are going to rely on China they are dead wrong. China dosent exactly see females as equals. Unless you are a cyborg woman like Alita Battle Angel, I hear its making really good money over there right now.

I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH BOTH OF YOU....FULL MOON I GUESS.

China dosent exactly see females as equals.

Something they have in common with you.

@Gus Gorman said:

China dosent exactly see females as equals.

Something they have in common with you.

Haha you got me! Ill just destroy all my Alien/Terminator blu rays...cause you know I cant stand to see a waman lead film. Wait, not going to do that cause you are a troll. Fuck off if you have nothing to add to the conversation.

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