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The question is, given that this is a "feminist" film, can we really trust the reviewers to do their job properl? History says no.

@A to Z said:

The question is, given that this is a "feminist" film, can we really trust the reviewers to do their job properl? History says no.

Trust them lol. I never understood what they are supposed to actually rate.

Do pro-critics (who are invited to early screenings) base their rating off of what it's supposed to be (popcorn film has to be a good popcorn film) or do they say that every film is meant to be rated based off every film ever made?

E.g. 21 Jump Street ain't a bad comedy so they might give it an 8/10 but they might give LaLaLand a 7/10 because it isn't a good musical. Of course, LaLaLand is an objectively better made film, so do the reviewers need to change it now??

Also, how much is subjective or objective? Are they forced to be subjective because then you'd only need one critic in the world, no? But if they are completely basing it off their own opinion, then it'll almost never fit with the majority of reviews and ppl won't think that they are a good critic. Irony.

I find it interesting how many reviews are comparing Gal Godot to Christopher Reeve as the perfect fit for the role. Also, it sounds like DC might be learning that Snyder's dark films are the wrong approach; the DC universe might be the "hopeful" antithesis of Marvel's bleakness if they learn to embrace it.

The question is, given that this is a "feminist" film, can we really trust the reviewers to do their job properl? History says no.

We're all too cynical. I don't see this as a "feminist" film, since WW has been around for ages and she's always been independent and liberated. And I never trust journalists. I've seen far, far too much editorializing in both news stories and even movie reviews. Nobody even attempts to be objective anymore; they always have an agenda.

I'm not sure its a feminist film...I haven't seen it yet. But like it or not...it is getting great reviews.

@NorthernLad said:

I'm not sure its a feminist film...I haven't seen it yet. But like it or not...it is getting great reviews.

Every large blockbuster starts at like 95%. All the biased super fans and the handpicked bribed (merchandise+watch it b4 release) critics see it first.

Saw the Beyond the Trailer review, she rates it as one of her favourite movies ever, that's got to be encouraging!

Yes, she also loved Fantastic 4 and Batman v Superman. Very encouraging!

@A to Z said:

Yes, she also loved Fantastic 4 and Batman v Superman. Very encouraging!

LOL

its a comic book movie... its be the same as all the other comic book movies... they all blend into one another after a while anyway...

I'm glad the early reviews have been positive. Personally I've enjoyed the first couple DCEU movies way more than any MCU movies. Now's the time for DC to strike and dominant the comic book movie scene.

Gonna have to disagree with those saying this isn't a "feminist film". It's already being presented by the media in an "agenda" driven way, case and point: > The summer blues are bringing even more attention to “Wonder Woman,” a $150-million production starring Gal Gadot and directed by Patty Jenkins. The film is expected to make history as the first female-fronted superhero blockbuster and a rare big-budget picture directed by a woman.

[http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-movie-projector-wonder-woman-20170530-htmlstory.html]

Doesn't mean the flick is good or bad, but this is definitely one I'll be ignoring so-called pro reviewers on.

@Pitt78 said:

Gonna have to disagree with those saying this isn't a "feminist film". It's already being presented by the media in an "agenda" driven way, case and point: > The summer blues are bringing even more attention to “Wonder Woman,” a $150-million production starring Gal Gadot and directed by Patty Jenkins. The film is expected to make history as the first female-fronted superhero blockbuster and a rare big-budget picture directed by a woman.

[http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-movie-projector-wonder-woman-20170530-htmlstory.html]

Doesn't mean the flick is good or bad, but this is definitely one I'll be ignoring so-called pro reviewers on.

Yeah...that statement still doesn't make it a feminist film. Sorry. Try again.

@NorthernLad said:

@Pitt78 said:

Gonna have to disagree with those saying this isn't a "feminist film". It's already being presented by the media in an "agenda" driven way, case and point: > The summer blues are bringing even more attention to “Wonder Woman,” a $150-million production starring Gal Gadot and directed by Patty Jenkins. The film is expected to make history as the first female-fronted superhero blockbuster and a rare big-budget picture directed by a woman.

[http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-movie-projector-wonder-woman-20170530-htmlstory.html]

Doesn't mean the flick is good or bad, but this is definitely one I'll be ignoring so-called pro reviewers on.

Yeah...that statement still doesn't make it a feminist film. Sorry. Try again.

Sorry if it triggered you, but yeah, it actually kinda does make it a feminist film. I don't even have to see the film yet either to know there are definitely going to be some feminist nods in the film. It's just the way Hollywood is. Try again.

@Pitt78 said:

@NorthernLad said:

@Pitt78 said:

Gonna have to disagree with those saying this isn't a "feminist film". It's already being presented by the media in an "agenda" driven way, case and point: > The summer blues are bringing even more attention to “Wonder Woman,” a $150-million production starring Gal Gadot and directed by Patty Jenkins. The film is expected to make history as the first female-fronted superhero blockbuster and a rare big-budget picture directed by a woman.

[http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-movie-projector-wonder-woman-20170530-htmlstory.html]

Doesn't mean the flick is good or bad, but this is definitely one I'll be ignoring so-called pro reviewers on.

Yeah...that statement still doesn't make it a feminist film. Sorry. Try again.

Sorry if it triggered you, but yeah, it actually kinda does make it a feminist film. I don't even have to see the film yet either to know there are definitely going to be some feminist nods in the film. It's just the way Hollywood is. Try again.

Sorry it doesn't. Saying the film is making history as a female-fronted superhero blockbuster...does NOT make it a feminist oriented film. I'm not sure you know what that even is....or maybe you're just on edge and defensive because that statement makes you uncomfortable. Who knows? What I do know is I'm not going to argue with you any further about it.

@NorthernLad said:

@Pitt78 said:

@NorthernLad said:

@Pitt78 said:

Gonna have to disagree with those saying this isn't a "feminist film". It's already being presented by the media in an "agenda" driven way, case and point: > The summer blues are bringing even more attention to “Wonder Woman,” a $150-million production starring Gal Gadot and directed by Patty Jenkins. The film is expected to make history as the first female-fronted superhero blockbuster and a rare big-budget picture directed by a woman.

[http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-movie-projector-wonder-woman-20170530-htmlstory.html]

Doesn't mean the flick is good or bad, but this is definitely one I'll be ignoring so-called pro reviewers on.

Yeah...that statement still doesn't make it a feminist film. Sorry. Try again.

Sorry if it triggered you, but yeah, it actually kinda does make it a feminist film. I don't even have to see the film yet either to know there are definitely going to be some feminist nods in the film. It's just the way Hollywood is. Try again.

Sorry it doesn't. Saying the film is making history as a female-fronted superhero blockbuster...does NOT make it a feminist oriented film. I'm not sure you know what that even is....or maybe you're just on edge and defensive because that statement makes you uncomfortable. Who knows? What I do know is I'm not going to argue with you any further about it.

You keep getting triggered. The fact that the media is already touting the "female first" aspect of the films making, thus making sure to point out the specialness of it all( such as you did by labeling it a history first ) , does indicate the film( i.e the entirety of it, not the wording of the actual movie/story that you seem to be implying but not outright saying ) is being portrayed with an agenda.

Furthermore, because Hollywood is predictable and the temperature of the current political climate for the last ten years has been submerged in identity politics, the actual contents of the film will no doubt have nods to feminism. Sorry if me pointing all this out makes you uncomfortable and defensive. As I said, none of this means it will be a bad movie, but getting triggered because I or anyone else point out the obvious is rather foolish.

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