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A whopping $242 million 4-day box office draw. HOLY SMOKES!!!
posted by Nchi9STAFFMOD on February 20, 2018 at 7:18 PM
This beats Star Wars: the Last Jedi and of course leaves Justice League behind in the dust 
MAGNIFICENT! To imagine that I'm not done watching it yet plus millions of others who will be pouring in the theatres this weekend to see the wonders of Black Panther. Life is beautiful 
I wonder what the domestic tally will be by the end of next weekend!!! 
I'll leave that to the imagination 
This movie will continue to break records at an amazing level. OMG!! Look at all the money flowing from the excellent black talent that Hollywood had ignored for so long. What was that talk about black movies not making money overseas? It's not even opened in China, Russia and some other big markets yet.
I can't wait to see it this weekend with the entire family AGAIN!! 
Excellent movie. A MUST SEE. My best marvel movie ever! Great job all the producers, directors and cast 
WAKANDA FOREVER 
(https://www.thewrap.com/black-panther-tops-star-wars-last-jedi-242-million-4-day-opening/)
Reply by CraigJamesReview
on February 20, 2018 at 10:48 PM
Agreed. Really good movie and if it's legs are as strong at the box office like I think they are then this one should be a tough one to beat, although Infinity War just may do so. Still, not too shabby. This movie has already proven to be a success.
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Reply by komrad
on February 20, 2018 at 11:39 PM
This movie is all kinds of Awesome, I'm sure the word of mouth will keep spreading and spreading. It deserves to be another billion breaker imho.
Reply by jorgito2001
on February 21, 2018 at 10:43 AM
OP only has 2 votes in and barely any actrivity...Nice plug ya a$$ kissing studio plant! Happy about it leaving JL in the dust??? Why?!??! Do yo u GET something out of it, beside your Mickey Mouse ba11 sucking pleasure?
Reply by Geff
on February 21, 2018 at 11:34 AM
We are witnessing the effects of late stage capitalism in this thread right now. As a psychology student I find this highly interesting. I certainly don't recall audiences feeling an investment in the financial successes of films when I was younger. It seems that the peasants have formed a hive-mind with with the production companies and the two have created a symbiotic relationship. This bears further study. I will definitely follow this trend closely as it progresses. I feel like we are on the frontiers of our understanding of how capitalism impacts the brain.
/end Entry.
Reply by Midi-chlorian_Count
on February 21, 2018 at 2:05 PM
Can't speak for anyone else but yeah I certainly find this in particular fascinating. The MCU vs DC stuff I read is incredible, people genuinely supporting how much dosh one mammoth organisation is making compared to another like it's a football score or something...
Also interesting - as seen recently with TLJ - is people really hanging off how much money a film has made as if it in some way validates the quality of the product for them. Very odd indeed 👍
Reply by tmdb82469342
on February 21, 2018 at 2:41 PM
Your insane anger has resulted in insane grammar.
Calm yourself down.
Reply by Innovator
on February 21, 2018 at 3:38 PM
Money is the language of studio execs. Support or lack of support for a product is how consumers tell them what kind of products we want and what kind of changes we want in their industry. It's less of looking at a football score, but more like a good way of keeping track of the trends which impact what the future will be like for the products we consume, a favorable financial report on products and practices that we as a people support means good news, a failing financial report on products or practices we as a people don't want to support also means good news for the future of that product. So yeah, it's important to keep track of the trends even if it doesn't in itself impact us financially, as it tells us as consumers what message we are conveying.
Reply by Renovatio
on February 21, 2018 at 4:07 PM
Blockbuster movie fanaticism is a spectator sport... the stats measrubating, the anticipation, the boxoffice climax as well as the post game analysis comparing review rankings and statistics IMDB, RT, cinemascore, metacritic, etc...
The audience is as conditooned as any sports fanatics to respond in this manner... The spectacle of the game, sorry, the show, is less important than the ritualistic consumption and tribalism that is associated with it..
It's much less about cinema, about having a filmmaker impart their sensibility to an audience... it's less about how one feels after watching a movie, less about aesthetjcs and beauty... attraction and repulsion, etc... It's more of the sports event staging and commerce... The TV aesthetic of selling product through these events...
In addition to the soap opera and TV series elements in serialised movies, it is yet again an example of how the TV aesthetic and ideology has subverted the cinema... undeniable now 🤔
The same corporations that own the studios that make these movie series, also own the media that hypes these series as well as profiting from the product placement ,advertising and merchandising opportunities... Fully networked and integrated into a conditioned consumer class..
Fascinating stuff... I think it will be accelerated and inegrated more fully once Disney have their streaming strategy implemented fully.... Constant fananticism? (sorry, "fandom" ) 😉
I wonder how artists who want to continue to use the medium of cinema to create will navigate this world... Shoudl be interesting...
tl;dr... TV has subverted cinema, so movie fans have become like sports fans
Reply by Innovator
on February 21, 2018 at 5:12 PM
Same as they always have. Create small productions and gain a fandom that will get them noticed by larger production companies. The larger production companies (especially Marvel) are always looking for talented directors/writers with indie sensibilities to create quality products with the mind of keeping the costs manageable in their tent poles. If they have success with the tent poles, doors open for them to create their passion projects with a greater budget to work with. This scenario has been repeated adnausium over the history of film that it should be an infomercial at this point, "How to succeed in the film industry! Take my seminar!"
Reply by Horus Mazinga
on February 21, 2018 at 5:55 PM
I think it is more of an artifact of the modern Troll Munitions Dump. Some DC or Marvel fan is deep in the trenches of warfare and needs reinforcements so they plumb any depth for some data to use as a weapon. Just because they found a shiny weekend-box-office sword does not meant that society has mutated under the terror of triple-evil capitalism
/mild mockery
Reply by komrad
on February 21, 2018 at 10:40 PM
Spoken like a true peasant.
Reply by komrad
on February 21, 2018 at 10:49 PM
Some of us actually love DC and truly hate what WB has done with their biggest franchise. They took the most popular and celebrated superheroes and fucking ruined them with their shit storytelling and shit film-making. Hiring an idiot like Zack "Slo-Mo" Snyder was among the biggest culprits. Disregarding source material just to be different for the sake of being different was another. Seriously, fuck WB and their DC extended universe...
Reply by Innovator
on February 21, 2018 at 11:07 PM
Yeah it's weird that people think there's an actual rivalry between DC and Marvel comic fandom, when most people who read comics enjoyed both. It's not the DC characters we dislike (who doesn't like Batman or Superman), it's what the WB has done with them we hate. Some people are willing to live with what they get, which would be fine if there weren't any other options. What we hope from the WB's losses is for them to wake up, as we truly want both DC and Marvel to succeed, and see what the hell they're doing wrong. Wonder Woman in theory should have had the same hype, same social movement, same reception that Black Panther has, but something should click in DC execs head that there was something seriously wrong when Black Panther earned a shit ton more than it in it's opening weakened (and probably will make more in its full run), and there's no excuse for JL's terrible box office (WB just done f**ked themselves).
Reply by Geff
on February 22, 2018 at 2:36 PM
Fair analysis, but I fear you are not going deep enough. You are only tracing it back to a previous case state where the ball was already rolling, not to where the ball began rolling. You are not even asking what came first, the chicken or the egg, you are simply saying that the infant chicken came before the adolescent chicken. You are right ofcourse, but that conclusion is fairly obvious.
Sport is the precursor, but what is the precursor to sport? You can trace it back to genetics. Evolution mandates the desire to compete. There is an illusion that you are free to choose this desire to compete. You are not. You are as free to enjoy competition as you are free to experience pain when you prick yourself with a needle. Both are products of evolution. The tyranny of flesh is inescapable.
Now, whenever there is competition there must be some method by which to measure success so that you can compare results and find out who won. In the days of old, it was who is the best at hunting and gathering. Capitol became a natural and effective descended unit of measure for success. If you are wealthy, you are better able to purchase food and survive and provide for your offspring. In this sense, capitalism is vindicated.
[/Begin Tangent] But, note that this vindication hinges on the idea that the goal of survival and reproduction is a worthy goal. Maybe some day humanity will be able to judiciously ask and answer the question of "Is life worthy of preserving, or does life have value in the universe?" But, at the current moment the answer is greatly impacted by the tyranny of flesh, i.e evolution has made it so that you must value life. You are a prisoner to a brain constructed by evolution. The individuals who did not value life committed suicide or chose to not have children as a form of rebellion against their destiny, as a result their genes became extinct through the process of natural selection. [/End Tangent]
Back to capitalism. Again, given normal assumptions taking into account evolution granted values, capitalism is vindicated. Something that is worth more or makes more money is greater in levels of success than something that is worth less or makes less money. This rule is pervasive in the capitalistic world, except for some niche examples. The person with more capitol is greater than the person with less capitol. Again, this makes sense, the person with more capitol has more resources to care of his offspring and carry forward his genes. He is better able to fulfill his evolutionary goal. He is also a better sexual candidate for this reason. One niche example that breaks the rule can be found in prostitution. The values of capitalism still exist internally, i.e a prostitute that costs more is better than a prostitute that costs less. But, sex with a prostitute is not considered necessarily better or more valueable than free sex. One can create a wide number of speculations as to why this niche exception exists. That's beyond the scope of this discussion.
The capitol value system meets a wall when evaluating the quality of art. The devout capitalist will say that the value of art is based on how much the art is worth or how much money it is capable of making. Indeed, art has been created in recent times that takes advantage of this specific expectation and makes a mockery of it through subversion. Contemporary art relies on absurdity. When blank white canvasses are sold for $15 million, it forces the observer to question the validity of the measurement device. That being said, it is equally absurd to measure the quality of art based on beauty, or complexity, or depth. Whenever you ask the question "Why should we use X to measure the value of art?" there will always be no answer. Perhaps it is your personal experience of the art that is important, the subjective feeling you get when you witness it. But, the subjective value system can be incredibly isolating because only you see it. Unlike sports where everyone can see the scoreboard, only you make up the numbers. If there are no objective values, only you exist in a universe of chaos.
Maybe capitol, while being a nonsensical unit of measure, is an escapist unit of measure that allows you to synthetically be part of a community rather than be alone in the universe.
“If men cannot refer to a common value, recognized by all as existing in each one, then man is incomprehensible to man.” - Albert Camus
Reply by MrsBuckyBarnes
on February 22, 2018 at 5:10 PM
i find it worrying that a psychology student would make such a comment. it is virtually dripping with contempt and hostility. i feel sorry for your future patients.