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The premise of this movie seems to be that Wakanda, supposedly the richest and most technologically advanced country on Earth, deliberately closed its borders while centuries of atrocities were taking place elsewhere on the continent. In real life, every damn country in Africa would be declaring war on their pompous asses as soon as the full details came out.

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The best review Ive seen so far is someone saying T’Challa is basically a black Trump. grin

Its a cape movie, you think people actually go and pay attention to the story? They probably just want to see shiny things and stuff blow up.

The main theme of the movie is about T'Chala dealing with Wakanda's role in the world... The different contenders for leadership had very different perspectives...

As was mentioned above in the thread, T'Chaka was isolationist, Killmonger wanted to export revolution in a domino theory manner and T'Challa was trying to navigate this, while coming to terms with his family's darker secrets... There were supporting factions and other perspective from the side characters as well (e.g. the niave technologism of the sister, and Nakia's perspective that Wakanda has a moral imparitive to better the world, opening boarders, etc...)...

Ultimately he decides to have some positive outreach into the world... Having realised that simple isolation ended up with risking his throne and embrioling Wakanda in global war...

@rvcanuck said:

The premise of this movie seems to be that Wakanda, supposedly the richest and most technologically advanced country on Earth, deliberately closed its borders while centuries of atrocities were taking place elsewhere on the continent. In real life, every damn country in Africa would be declaring war on their pompous asses as soon as the full details came out.

Let me get this straight. In a world where there is Asgard, and mythological Nordic gods exist in real life, and where there exists a guy who becomes a giant green monster when he gets angry, and where a guy has acquired spider powers by being bit by a spider, and where there are giant portals to alien planets being conjured on top of cities, THIS is the thing you decide to be incredulous about? This is the thing that breaks your suspension of disbelief?

...Interesting.

@Renovatio said: Having realised that simple isolation ended up with risking his throne and embrioling Wakanda in global war...

The only risk to his throne was when he voluntarily accepted the challenge Killmonger leveled. He did not have to. Wakanda would have continued with uninterrupted prosperity in isolation (until the Vibranium runs out)

@Horus Mazinga said:

@Renovatio said: Having realised that simple isolation ended up with risking his throne and embrioling Wakanda in global war...

The only risk to his throne was when he voluntarily accepted the challenge Killmonger leveled. He did not have to. Wakanda would have continued with uninterrupted prosperity in isolation (until the Vibranium runs out)

I don't know about that... He would have risked it either way as not accepting would cast doubt over the throne... In Monarchy and antiquity thewe symbolic things matter a lot as it is not a society built on contract... Think Godfather...

Especially as the seeds of rebellion planted were as the Get Out guys relative was killed by Claw during one of his raids to get vibranium...

@Renovatio said:

@Horus Mazinga said:

@Renovatio said: Having realised that simple isolation ended up with risking his throne and embrioling Wakanda in global war...

The only risk to his throne was when he voluntarily accepted the challenge Killmonger leveled. He did not have to. Wakanda would have continued with uninterrupted prosperity in isolation (until the Vibranium runs out)

I don't know about that... He would have risked it either way as not accepting would cast doubt over the throne... In Monarchy and antiquity thewe symbolic things matter a lot as it is not a society built on contract... Think Godfather...

Especially as the seeds of rebellion planted were as the Get Out guys relative was killed by Claw during one of his raids to get vibranium...

Fair enough. Still, I don't think TChalla's reign would have been in any true danger. His father seemed to grow old under the mantle so surely no challenges nor tribe dissent were enough to shake Wakanda rule.

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@Renovatio said:

@Horus Mazinga said:

@Renovatio said: Having realised that simple isolation ended up with risking his throne and embrioling Wakanda in global war...

The only risk to his throne was when he voluntarily accepted the challenge Killmonger leveled. He did not have to. Wakanda would have continued with uninterrupted prosperity in isolation (until the Vibranium runs out)

I don't know about that... He would have risked it either way as not accepting would cast doubt over the throne... In Monarchy and antiquity thewe symbolic things matter a lot as it is not a society built on contract... Think Godfather...

Especially as the seeds of rebellion planted were as the Get Out guys relative was killed by Claw during one of his raids to get vibranium...

ROFLMAO @ Get Out guy. I guess Daniel Kaluuya will always be referred to the Get Out guy joy

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