Don't know if anyone else noticed this, but there is a definite plot hole in Terminator 2. In the first movie, Kyle Reese explained how time travel works to Doctor Silberman. He said, and I quote: "you go through naked...something about the field generated by a living organism.' Now the terminator could go through because it's covered in living tissue. But the T-1000 is just liquid metal, and is NOT covered in living tissue. it never was. So how did it time travel? Looks like they overlooked this to me.
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Resposta de VHS-VANDAL
em 18 abril 2019 às 4:52 PM
IM THINKING THAT SINCE T-1000 IS LIQUID METAL OR FLUID HE IS CAPABLE OF THE TRIP.NO SOLID FORM TO DESTROY OR DAMAGE.
Resposta de skarnak
em 18 abril 2019 às 7:02 PM
Reese also said”nothing dead will go” though. The actual time traveling process requires a living organism
Resposta de VHS-VANDAL
em 18 abril 2019 às 8:02 PM
the T-1000 is described in Terminator 2 as being composed of liquid metal, or a mimetic polyalloy (nanorobotics) that it can manipulate to assume various forms. Aside from being able to camouflage itself by assuming the appearance of a nondescript object or take on the likeness of other humans that it terminates in pursuit of its goals, the T-1000's shapeshifting abilities enable it to form its hands into stabbing blades, slip through physical openings by oozing its liquid form, and instantly reform itself from any physical damage.[2] It is further explained in the prologue of the film's novelization, that the T-1000 was created through nanotechnology, and is a 'Nanomorph', able to scan the molecular structure of whatever it is touching and visually mimic it..
Resposta de skarnak
em 19 abril 2019 às 3:43 AM
It's still metal though. It doesn't actually become organic, it only mimics it's appearance.
Resposta de Innovator
em 19 abril 2019 às 4:06 AM
You never actually see his transportation in T2. My guess is he was transported covered in a living skin coating (probably a leather water skin/bag) or maybe even injected inside an unconscious living human, which he immediately destroyed after transport. The living human idea would also explain how his initial form was set.
Resposta de VHS-VANDAL
em 19 abril 2019 às 5:13 AM
THATS CLEVER..WE SHALL GO WITH THAT.
Resposta de skarnak
em 19 abril 2019 às 10:14 AM
Yes exactly we never see it's transport, which is what makes this a plot hole. Even in the extra deleted scenes, they don't show it. That is my point, it is a plot hole. If they don't show it, then it doesn't happen in the movie. After all, it's also not mentioned that it arrived in a 'skinbag' either. So then that didn't happen. You never assume with movies. If it's not shown or explained, it didn't happen. We obviously know it arrived, but we don't know the full details. there are no organic remains in the spot where it arrived, where the one cop checked out the fence and the circular hole within it. so there's no evidence it had a skin suit. There was no time to hide one. we just see the T-1000 in it's main human mimic form.
Resposta de Innovator
em 19 abril 2019 às 10:27 AM
No all it means is because we did not see it, it's open to interpretation. As for the skin suit, we don't see anything because the T-2000 has already moved away before the cop showed up at the landing site. But the question remains, if there wasn't a human skin suit, where did the mimic form come from? It wasn't the cop, nor anyone else in the area. Meaning he had to have brought it with him.
Resposta de skarnak
em 19 abril 2019 às 10:39 AM
If it's open to interpretation , that why don't you admit that I am possibly right? That they forgot about how the time travel works in their own franchise? the odds are that I am just as correct as you are. In Terminator 3, the same thing happens. The T-x doesn't have actual flesh covering itself either but a bit of liquid metal allowing it to mimic the appearance of people of around the same size. I think my interpretation deserves some acknowledgement, because NO proper explanation is ever given in the movie.
Resposta de Innovator
em 19 abril 2019 às 11:16 AM
Sure you could be right, but the way I think about it is Cameron wrote both Terminator and T2, so I doubt he forgot his own rules for his own series. He just chose to not deal with it by not showing it.
Resposta de skarnak
em 19 abril 2019 às 1:08 PM
All it would have taken was a single line of dialogue though. If they had addressed it, it would have made things better, IMO. As it is, it just seems like a glaring mistake to me. It almost makes one wonder if the T-1000 counts as living, and that's why it was able to go through.
Resposta de A-Dubya
em 30 maio 2019 às 3:57 PM
That isn't even the only big plot hole of this film.
Resposta de skarnak
em 31 maio 2019 às 10:21 PM
That 'years have passed' doesn't actually apply. The machines could have sent the T-1000 immediately after sending the T-800. We honestly don't know. that's the thing with time travel. we have no idea how much time passed between when both terminators were sent back in time. There is no concrete info at all on it. just guesses and assumptions.
Resposta de AlienFanatic
em 1 junho 2019 às 11:28 PM
BTW I did a search on this concept, realizing that any movie as old as T2 will have spawned innumerable theories, and I came up with this.
https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/11058/how-did-skynet-send-back-the-t-1000-and-the-t-x
In brief, they did think of this when they made the movie and had planned to film an arrival scene for the T1000 that intimated that he arrived in a "flesh cocoon" of some kind, but it was deemed too confusing. They did cover it in the novelization, though YMMV as to whether or not you consider novels "canon" in reference to the movies. In short, it's a plot "hole" due more to the exigencies of filming rather than a brain fart by the producers.
Resposta de skarnak
em 25 agosto 2019 às 2:54 PM
well, it is nice to know they thought of it. I guess I can understand why they would think it would be too confusing. But I just love to pick movies apart like this. Like the Youtubers Cinemasins and HISHE.