Then, maybe it shouldn't have been a franchise at all.

@Satch_the_man said:

Then, maybe it shouldn't have been a franchise at all.

Maybe you're right.

It wasn't a franchise when this was made. This was just a sequel. Then along came the MCU and suddenly every studio was desperate after franchises.

Some movies should be just sequels. Not everything needs a cinematic universe.

@Gus Gorman said:

Good film but sad fact.

You provide no supporting arguments then act as though your mic-drop is sufficient to support your assertion. Why? What did Terminator 2 do that undermined the franchise? Too much humor? Negating the actions of the protagonists of the first film? Over emphasis on one liners and special effects? What?

And without the sequel, we wouldn't be talking about a "franchise" at all.

@glomps and nibbles said: There are some Marvel movies which i like so very much. One being Guardians Of The Galaxy.

I just can't wait to see them in Avengers - Infinity War

To clarify: I love the MCU. The way they have built their cinematic universe is unique in movie history. And it is just awesome.

But I hate that every other movie studio seems more concerned about building expanded universes than making good movies.

I prefer remakes, adaptations and homages to sequels... With a remake, the original is still there and often a popular remake encourages people to seek out the original...

Remakes also allow for experimenting with different parts of the story as well as, whether they are strict remakes or just homages that take their inspiration from the older films... E.g. A Perfect Murder as a remake of Dial M for Murder...

A sequel, tends to make a movie feel more like TV, the soap opera elements creep in fast and the meaning of the original stories can change... It is also lazier as people are less critical of sequels then they are of remakes... The bar is set lower...

@jomarthecat said:

It wasn't a franchise when this was made. This was just a sequel. Then along came the MCU and suddenly every studio was desperate after franchises.

Terminator 3 pre-dates the MCU, and Terminator Salvation went into production before the MCU films, Iron Man and To he Incredible Hulk, were released. So you can't possibly blame the attempt to turn Terminator into a franchise in the popularity of the MCU.

It is not as if the MCU is the first ever franchise, Star Wars and Rocky films, not to mention James Bond, proved franchises could be highly profitable decades before the MCU.

@mechajutaro said:

It is not as if the MCU is the first ever franchise, Star Wars and Rocky films

Several Joel Silver films from The 80s all take place in the same universe also. Commando, Die Hard 2, Predator, and arguably the first couple of Lethal Weapon movies all take place in a shared cinematic universe. It's just a shame that we never got to see Martin Riggs or Bruce Willis square off against The Predator

Dude, that would actually have been really cool if that happened in the 80s or 90s. I'd prefer that to any Predator movie we've had since the first or any of the Expendables films.