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... that Dreyfuss' adult Gordie was closer in 1986 to the 1959 events from his childhood than we are now to the 1980's.
Especially for those of us who were children then. We're getting old! smiley

Presumably the adult audience in the 80's would have looked back on the 50's childhood depicted with some nostalgia, but really - apart from pretty superficial stuff like styles of music, dress, car design, etc - there wasn't any major change in the lives of children between those two eras.
Whereas nowadays technological advancements, social changes, and increased concern about children's safety have had led to marked differences between our experience of childhood and that of today, making our sense of distance and separation from those days feel all the greater.

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Yeah that's a weird thought! I also wonder about the types of people that are created in today's world - these days there are constant distractions, and boredom is a thing of the past. I remember staring out of car windows, pondering stuff, finding ways to amuse ourselves. Curiosity, discovery and patience don't seem to have a place in a world of instant gratification. ADD seems to be on the rise, and all this shít about identifying as polygendered Otherkins seems to mark a culture of grotesque paradise-syndrome sufferers.

As Douglas Murray says, 'these are the things we'll be arguing about when the Mullahs nuke us'. I think that's why there's now a pining for simpler times, and a rediscovery of core values.

@Drooch said:

As Douglas Murray says, 'these are the things we'll be arguing about when the Mullahs nuke us'. I think that's why there's now a pining for simpler times, and a rediscovery of core values.

Perversely that is what the mullahs want: simpler times, and a rediscovery of core values!

Perversely that is what the mullahs want: simpler times, and a rediscovery of core values!

Very true, though their core values are insane theocratic ones that lead to failed states and violent conquest.

@Drooch said:

Perversely that is what the mullahs want: simpler times, and a rediscovery of core values!

Very true, though their core values are insane theocratic ones that lead to failed states and violent conquest.

Sounds like the Republican Party in the USA!

its crazy yes :) Like when i saw Back to the Future II at the movies it felt 2015 was way too far in the future it would never happen.

You know you're getting old when you listen to some radio station for elderly people. And they play Depeche Mode or The Cure.

@wreckage3001 said:

You know you're getting old when you listen to some radio station for elderly people. And they play Depeche Mode or The Cure.

Ha Ha...so true. 2 of my favorite bands of all time. Have seen the Cure 4 times in concert. 1989, 1993, 2003 and 2016 Seen Depeche Mode twice 1990, 2005 and will be seeing them this september.

I was born in 1993, and yeah, there is some truth about this instant gratification, although it can be rewarding... However, I don't appreciate what one of you wrote about "polygender"- being transgender is a real thin, it's taken years for people to work this out, but it needs to be acknowledged- however, although imagination may not quite be what it once was, it still does exist- I've seen children with a lot of it grinning

@RCH2288 said:

@wreckage3001 said:

You know you're getting old when you listen to some radio station for elderly people. And they play Depeche Mode or The Cure.

Ha Ha...so true. 2 of my favorite bands of all time. Have seen the Cure 4 times in concert. 1989, 1993, 2003 and 2016 Seen Depeche Mode twice 1990, 2005 and will be seeing them this september.

Oh i am guilty.... i have set my channel on a radio station from which i know they play 'a forest' at least once a day :)

@Joeisacoolguy said:

However, I don't appreciate what one of you wrote about "polygender"- being transgender is a real thin, it's taken years for people to work this out, but it needs to be acknowledged

It's not as simple as that. Transgender isn't a condition, it's a surgical process of having one's body mutilated to approximate the other gender, your chromosomes are still either male or female, and every one of your cells carry that chromosomal information. You cannot change your chromosomes, you cannot change your gender.

What may be real is the mental illness called Gender Dysphoria, where you feel like you should be the other gender. Whether slicing off body parts and pumping hormonal drugs is the compassionate thing to do to these people is hotly debated, as is whether or not taxpayers should fund such 'treatment'.

There's a political movement to silence these questions, but if we're to be truly compassionate to the unfortunate sufferers of Gender Dysphoria then we must ask them.

No, that's transsexual- and you're right, it's not a condition, it's a way of life

Lots of people are born in the wrong gender, sad, but true, and we need to respect that they recognise that

@Joeisacoolguy said:

Lots of people are born in the wrong gender, sad, but true, and we need to respect that they recognise that

It's 'true' that they experience a desire to become the other gender, but to state that they're 'born in the wrong gender' is problematic. For example, how can a man with male chromosomes and a male brain be said to be 'in the wrong body'? On what basis is it 'wrong'?

@Deuteronomy of Gath said:

... that Dreyfuss' adult Gordie was closer in 1986 to the 1959 events from his childhood than we are now to the 1980's.
Especially for those of us who were children then. We're getting old! smiley

Presumably the adult audience in the 80's would have looked back on the 50's childhood depicted with some nostalgia, but really - apart from pretty superficial stuff like styles of music, dress, car design, etc - there wasn't any major change in the lives of children between those two eras.
Whereas nowadays technological advancements, social changes, and increased concern about children's safety have had led to marked differences between our experience of childhood and that of today, making our sense of distance and separation from those days feel all the greater.

Good points. As a society, we've grown exponentially in the past 3 decades since this movie came out. It's mindblowing to see the times my teenage kids live in compared to my teen years in the 80s.

@Drooch said:

@Joeisacoolguy said:

Lots of people are born in the wrong gender, sad, but true, and we need to respect that they recognise that

It's 'true' that they experience a desire to become the other gender, but to state that they're 'born in the wrong gender' is problematic. For example, how can a man with male chromosomes and a male brain be said to be 'in the wrong body'? On what basis is it 'wrong'?

It's not problematic- if people think of themselves as the other gender... well, they know themselves better than we do

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