Item: Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back
Language: en
Type of Problem: Incorrect_content
Extra Details: The original title of this movie is Empire Strikes Back.
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Bubbathegut válaszolt
Beküldve: 2017. február 15. 19:23
I thought this was the correct title: Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back.
Banana válaszolt
Beküldve: 2017. február 15. 19:46
Technically, yes. But after years of reports asking for a title change, we decided (with Travis) to go with the shorter original titles.
Bubbathegut válaszolt
Beküldve: 2017. február 15. 19:53
The average fan knows its a Star Wars movie but someone who doesn't anything about SW will not know what TESB refers to.
Banana válaszolt
Beküldve: 2017. február 15. 22:59
They can check the alternative titles, the posters, the Star Wars collection, etc. I think it should be fine.
zxian válaszolt
Beküldve: 2018. február 18. 01:51
Can this please be re-evaluated? Other series are treated in a different manner (e.g. Star Trek, Pirates of the Caribbean, etc) and it would be useful to maintain a consistent behaviour.
Marr 🇳🇱 válaszolt
Beküldve: 2018. február 18. 05:34
Travis is king and owner of tmdb. So Travis decided. If you want to change it for your private collection. Override it locally in plex or whatever you use.
Deal with it, or not xD
DJ_Lectr0 válaszolt
Beküldve: 2018. február 18. 10:50
@alltimemarr
While this is certainly true, TMDB boasts itself by saying it's a community based platform, so IMO it should respect the communities wishes. Especially, if you get a lot of people wanting more consistency. If I wanted a platform run by only one person, I can just go with OMDB or IMDB directly.
I would like to know the reason for going with the original shorter titles. IMO it makes no sense, as pointed out with other series which are much more consistently named.
lineker válaszolt
Beküldve: 2018. február 18. 11:47
Funny, that you mention it. Why would a movie database choose to actually use the correct original titles? I would hope that if someone at studio level decided that The Godfather should be called The Godfather: Part I, that we would decide to stick with the correct original title in such a case as well, no matter how much better such a new title would align with the two sequels.
(As for IMDb, they used to carry the correct original titles for all three titles, then decided to change number 2 and 3 (or 5 and 6 if you prefer that way of counting). Star Wars is still called Star Wars though, which is a curious decision.)
ticao2 🇧🇷 pt-BR válaszolt
Beküldve: 2018. február 18. 12:00
For my collection I prefer this:
I think it's more consistent.
zxian válaszolt
Beküldve: 2018. február 18. 13:59
@lineker It appears that movies are currently keyed on Original Title and not another field such as Title or Studio Title. It doesn't seem like TMDB provides a means aside from Alternative Titles to support a situation like this where the studio or rightsholder wishes to change the title of a given movie. Simply telling users to refer to Alternative Titles as is doesn't seem like a useful option either, as the user/client would need to know which Type to select the studio title from.
(fwiw, IMDB is showing the full title of Star Wars with the episode included, but they make a note of "Star Wars (original title)" below the full title)
lineker válaszolt
Beküldve: 2018. február 18. 14:35
I have IMDb set to only show original titles, but what you write must be correct for any other setting I guess.
That is true. IMDb has a unique way of displaying titles. I think the default setting is a simple region check. So if you visit the site from Sweden you will get titles in Swedish and so on. However, should Disney decide that they want a certain title used here, maybe that would be enough to break our rules for a special case. We are already accommodating, in a few rare cases, actors wanting a certain profile picture used or a director wanting a certain poster used for a movie.
(An interesting hypothetical case would be if the original version of a movie - that has been screened theatrically - features an actor that is then removed and replaced in a later version. With support for multiple versions, a feature that is planned, it would be easily resolved of course, but what to do with the current configuration should a rights-holder demand that the later version be represented here?)
MrNobodyWTB válaszolt
Beküldve: 2020. március 14. 21:49
I don't think it has anything to do with who knows what. I think it's better for consistency in sequential naming in archives.
Instead of having all the star wars movies right next to each other, they're now starting to get thrown everywhere in the movies folder, since in order to have a no-effort meta scrape, you can no longer have sequential names for episodes 1 - 9
allegro.federico@gmail.com válaszolt
Beküldve: 2020. április 10. 09:25
I also think this decision has no consistency (that is the most important thing when it is up to collections). I would like you to re-think this decision... PLEASE