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The biggest problem with the Disney Wars movies
mcse2000caSTAFFMOD 发布于 2020 年 01 月 11 日 6:58下午
Honestly yes they should have wrote a road map before they started, but the worst thing is Disney doesn't let there directors just do a good movie they prefer to meddle with all of them to put forth a message instead of a decent story. And let us be honest they would never have made Empire Strike Back because of the dark aspects of it. They just don't have the balls to take any risks and that is really the core of there problem this isn't Marvel.
Nexus71 的回复
于 2020 年 01 月 12 日 5:38上午
Wasn't the TLJ dark enough?
wonder2wonder 的回复
于 2020 年 01 月 12 日 6:28上午
As long as it makes over a billion dollars, TPTB will continue making this kind of movies.
mcse2000ca 的回复
于 2020 年 01 月 12 日 10:38上午
what with the your mama jokes and the rest of that garbage?
Nexus71 的回复
于 2020 年 01 月 13 日 10:53下午
I meant "dark" as in it being the worst nightmare for SW fans.
mcse2000ca 的回复
于 2020 年 01 月 14 日 1:09上午
lmao so true so true
Nexus71 的回复
于 2020 年 01 月 16 日 3:35上午
Glad we are on the same page.
mcse2000ca 的回复
于 2020 年 01 月 16 日 9:12上午
How could anyone not be its called taste in quality lol
AlienFanatic 的回复
于 2020 年 01 月 16 日 11:22上午
I read your subsequent comments, so I get your original point.
Treating your comment as a serious one, I'd argue that there's a different type of darkness in Empire vs. TLJ. Empire was only "dark" in that it went a different emotional direction than the first movie. It treated the characters as humans rather than archetypes. It also enhanced the menace of Darth Vader and the Empire and bloodied the Rebels' noses. The ending was exceedingly grim, especially in an age long before the internet and the one year movie development cycle.
TLJ, by contrast, seemed more interested in shredding the original mythology than really crafting a compelling film. Did you ever worry what would happen to Finn, Poe, Rey, or Leia? Other than the endless slow-chase between the First Order and Leia's fleet, was there any tension in any part of the film? The darkest parts are what Johnson did with the Luke character coupled with the idea that the Rebellion was, in the end, worthless.
Maybe it's just that I never found any of the new characters compelling, but as "dark" as TLJ got it was never as grim as when Han was frozen, Luke lost an arm, and Leia futilely chased Fett's Slave 1 with a hand blaster. Instead we got a pissed off Luke who evaporated after straining too hard, a tacked-on romance between two people as lovable as a wet dog, Rey kinda-sorta-not-really training, and Weepy Ben Solo moping around until he kills Gollum. Meh.
Nexus71 的回复
于 2020 年 01 月 17 日 6:19上午
I was serious about TLJ being a horrible movie and that it was far too busy pissing all over the legacy of the OT in stead of telling a good engaging and well structured story.
skarnak 的回复
于 2020 年 02 月 09 日 11:49上午
Of course you were serious, and you were also 100% correct. TLJ IS a horrible movie and does nothing put piss and shit all over the original story and characters of the OT .
Nexus71 的回复
于 2020 年 02 月 12 日 7:26上午
Glad we agree
Philippe LeMarchand 的回复
于 2020 年 02 月 12 日 10:04上午
is the whingeing fans?
Nexus71 的回复
于 2020 年 02 月 12 日 10:06上午
I rather think it is the lack of quality and imagination. Hi Philippe how is life in post Brexit UK?
mcse2000ca 的回复
于 2020 年 02 月 12 日 1:12下午
just curious whats whingeing?
Philippe LeMarchand 的回复
于 2020 年 02 月 12 日 1:27下午
Didn't realise that it was a "rare outside of the UK" colloquialism! "Complaining persistently and in a peevish or irritating way" https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/whinge