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The biggest problem with the Disney Wars movies
publicado por mcse2000caSTAFFMOD em 11 janeiro 2020 às 6:58 PM
Honestly yes they should have wrote a road map before they started, but the worst thing is Disney doesn't let there directors just do a good movie they prefer to meddle with all of them to put forth a message instead of a decent story. And let us be honest they would never have made Empire Strike Back because of the dark aspects of it. They just don't have the balls to take any risks and that is really the core of there problem this isn't Marvel.
Resposta de Nexus71
em 12 janeiro 2020 às 5:38 AM
Wasn't the TLJ dark enough?
Resposta de wonder2wonder
em 12 janeiro 2020 às 6:28 AM
As long as it makes over a billion dollars, TPTB will continue making this kind of movies.
Resposta de mcse2000ca
em 12 janeiro 2020 às 10:38 AM
what with the your mama jokes and the rest of that garbage?
Resposta de Nexus71
em 13 janeiro 2020 às 10:53 PM
I meant "dark" as in it being the worst nightmare for SW fans.
Resposta de mcse2000ca
em 14 janeiro 2020 às 1:09 AM
lmao so true so true
Resposta de Nexus71
em 16 janeiro 2020 às 3:35 AM
Glad we are on the same page.
Resposta de mcse2000ca
em 16 janeiro 2020 às 9:12 AM
How could anyone not be its called taste in quality lol
Resposta de AlienFanatic
em 16 janeiro 2020 às 11:22 AM
I read your subsequent comments, so I get your original point.
Treating your comment as a serious one, I'd argue that there's a different type of darkness in Empire vs. TLJ. Empire was only "dark" in that it went a different emotional direction than the first movie. It treated the characters as humans rather than archetypes. It also enhanced the menace of Darth Vader and the Empire and bloodied the Rebels' noses. The ending was exceedingly grim, especially in an age long before the internet and the one year movie development cycle.
TLJ, by contrast, seemed more interested in shredding the original mythology than really crafting a compelling film. Did you ever worry what would happen to Finn, Poe, Rey, or Leia? Other than the endless slow-chase between the First Order and Leia's fleet, was there any tension in any part of the film? The darkest parts are what Johnson did with the Luke character coupled with the idea that the Rebellion was, in the end, worthless.
Maybe it's just that I never found any of the new characters compelling, but as "dark" as TLJ got it was never as grim as when Han was frozen, Luke lost an arm, and Leia futilely chased Fett's Slave 1 with a hand blaster. Instead we got a pissed off Luke who evaporated after straining too hard, a tacked-on romance between two people as lovable as a wet dog, Rey kinda-sorta-not-really training, and Weepy Ben Solo moping around until he kills Gollum. Meh.
Resposta de Nexus71
em 17 janeiro 2020 às 6:19 AM
I was serious about TLJ being a horrible movie and that it was far too busy pissing all over the legacy of the OT in stead of telling a good engaging and well structured story.
Resposta de skarnak
em 9 fevereiro 2020 às 11:49 AM
Of course you were serious, and you were also 100% correct. TLJ IS a horrible movie and does nothing put piss and shit all over the original story and characters of the OT .
Resposta de Nexus71
em 12 fevereiro 2020 às 7:26 AM
Glad we agree
Resposta de Philippe LeMarchand
em 12 fevereiro 2020 às 10:04 AM
is the whingeing fans?
Resposta de Nexus71
em 12 fevereiro 2020 às 10:06 AM
I rather think it is the lack of quality and imagination. Hi Philippe how is life in post Brexit UK?
Resposta de mcse2000ca
em 12 fevereiro 2020 às 1:12 PM
just curious whats whingeing?
Resposta de Philippe LeMarchand
em 12 fevereiro 2020 às 1:27 PM
Didn't realise that it was a "rare outside of the UK" colloquialism! "Complaining persistently and in a peevish or irritating way" https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/whinge