讨论 Star Wars: The Last Jedi

99.9% of the people think Stormtoopers are clones. This is a fact

When we first saw the original films, we were intrigued by the stormtroopers. Were they robots? Under mind control? Just varying humans, (and humans only), in suits? But when the prequels came out, Lucas decided, in all his wisdom, to strongly indicate that stormtroopers were, in fact, clones. This made perfect sense, because in the original films they all looked the same, had roughly the same height, were all uniformly retarded and behaved in a automatronic fashion. Lucas had his audience convinced that the genesis of the stormtrooper was in a cloning factory.

Hooray!

So now we cut to the teaser, and we see the negro stormtrooper. Which means they have moved on from Maori clones to negro clones. An understandable progression, given the general negro athleticism, strength, intellectual pliancy and herd mentality. An army of NFL running backs with guns. AWESOME!

BUT WAIT!

Apparenntly in some shtty cartoon released God knows when, which about 6 people watched, it was mentioned that inexplicably, the Emperor dispensed with clones and went back to drafting retarded members of the populace to become slacker Stormtroopers....this despite the clones beating the motherfcking JEDI!!

Well, I'm sorry. That is not canon, as far as 99.9% of people are concerned. It also makes ZERO sense.

A cartoon watched by a few geeks does not canon make. The people think stormtroopers are clones, because that is what Lucas told us, whether he meant to or not.

The negro is a stormtrooper. Therefore he is a clone. He has the force 'awaken' within him, making him an individiual and intellectually and morally free.

JJ Abrams 'gets' this. So should you.

Capiche?

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Conscription is cheaper than cloning. The emperor did not have the political clout to conscript troops before he became emperor. Some 20 years passed between ROTS and ANH. The Jedi are long dead, so who cares about an army that can beat jedi? They just need to be able to control commoners, and the Death Star was another tool to keep them under control. And they blew up 2 death stars, so the Emperor's financial acumen is questionable.

And there IS no emperor in TFA so even that point is moot.

@Ahstaroth said:

Conscription is cheaper than cloning. The emperor did not have the political clout to conscript troops before he became emperor. Some 20 years passed between ROTS and ANH. The Jedi are long dead, so who cares about an army that can beat jedi? They just need to be able to control commoners, and the Death Star was another tool to keep them under control. And they blew up 2 death stars, so the Emperor's financial acumen is questionable.

And there IS no emperor in TFA so even that point is moot.

How much does it cost to conscript, and to clone?

@Ahstaroth said:

Conscription is cheaper than cloning. The emperor did not have the political clout to conscript troops before he became emperor. Some 20 years passed between ROTS and ANH. The Jedi are long dead, so who cares about an army that can beat jedi? They just need to be able to control commoners, and the Death Star was another tool to keep them under control. And they blew up 2 death stars, so the Emperor's financial acumen is questionable.

And there IS no emperor in TFA so even that point is moot.

Fool.

Finn: "I'm not Resistance. I'm not a hero. I'm a stormtrooper. Like all of them, I was taken from a family I'll never know. And raised to do one thing."

Finn himself states outright they are stolen as children from their families - ergo not clones.

This better not be a clone Harry Skywalker. Someone please take my RAM out.

Originally they were clones, but after years of fighting it became necessary to add to their ranks by another method.

@Joe79 said:

Finn: "I'm not Resistance. I'm not a hero. I'm a stormtrooper. Like all of them, I was taken from a family I'll never know. And raised to do one thing."

Finn himself states outright they are stolen as children from their families - ergo not clones.

Finn is an evil imperial clone. He was lying.

@FlyingSaucersAreReal said:

Originally they were clones, but after years of fighting it became necessary to add to their ranks by another method.

No

@Ahstaroth said:

And there IS no emperor in TFA so even that point is moot.

... guess Supreme Leader Stoke did not get the memo

@HAL 9010' said:

@Ahstaroth said:

And there IS no emperor in TFA so even that point is moot.

... guess Supreme Leader Stoke did not get the memo

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