Discuss Star Trek: The Motion Picture

So, I am still longing for a release of the Director's Edition on Blu-ray. I know of the limitations of the low-res CG effects rendering and that they would need to be redone for High-def.

Paramount needs to spend a little money and give this film (that made so much money for them) some attention.

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What you want more FX shots of Enterprise flying into V'ger and scenes of crewmen looking at screens?

@Nexus71 said:

What you want more FX shots of Enterprise flying into V'ger and scenes of crewmen looking at screens?

There is already a director cut on DVD, it is an improvement over the theatrical cut. But it is not available in Blu Ray and probably never will be because they are unlikely to get a return on investment.

Persis Khambatta was so hot, even with a bald head. I remember her giving me feelings.

Remember the oath of celibacy smile

Huh? What are you talking about, Nexus71?

That's the first words she speaks to Leisure Suit Kirk on arrival on the bridge...

Gladly I am not the only who thought that dialogue was odd.

@Nexus71 said:

Gladly I am not the only who thought that dialogue was odd.

She is a member of a species that tends to greet people they meet for the first time by having sex. Since a crew member who is constantly having sex with everyone in the ship could likely be a distraction, members of her species are only allowed to serve in Starfleet if they take an oath of celibacy.

@autoexec.batman said:

@Nexus71 said:

Gladly I am not the only who thought that dialogue was odd.

She is a member of a species that tends to greet people they meet for the first time by having sex. Since a crew member who is constantly having sex with everyone in the ship could likely be a distraction, members of her species are only allowed to serve in Starfleet if they take an oath of celibacy.

Wow! That is really interesting backstory for her character. I don't think I would've handled that info too well in my pre-teens, which is when I saw the film in the theater.

It would have been nice if they had showed a scene explaining that

It isn't explained in the movie but it's in the original story "In Thine Image" by Alan Dean Foster upon which the screenplay for this movie was based and it is the backstory for the character of ilia that was supposed to appear in The aborted series Star Trek phase II.

Decker and ilia were both supposed to be main characters on that show, and since the success of Star Wars, the plan to revive Star Trek as a TV series was scrapped in favor of making it a movie.

Most of the ideas that was planned for but not used not used for Star Trek phase II made its way into TNG a few years later.

The relationship between Decker and ilia was reused in TNG as the basis for the relationship between Will Riker and Deanna Troi. While the idea of a civilization filled with people for whom sex is a casual greeting like shaking hands became the basis of the awful TNG episode "Justice".

True story, Gene Roddenberry was kind of a pervert who always had to be talked out of turning Star Trek into a kind of porn parody of itself. In Roddenberry's original treatment for Star Trek the motion picture, Captain Kirk was supposed to be introduced with him The in middle of a threesome with two women when he is abruptly called back to duty.

@Nexus71 said:

It would have been nice if they had showed a scene explaining that

Well it is better to show than it is to tell.

Back to the OP. I find "Directors Cuts" a lot of the time to be tricks to get you to buy the same movie more than once.

As for Rodenbarry the criticsism that he wanted no inter crew conflict on TNG was because the whole ship was doing it and therefore quite relaxed anyways. And I thought it was the later shows that sexed up space when it was Gene all along.

"Is that a tribble in your pants Captain?"

"Why yes it is. A fully functional tribble too. Skilled in multiple techniques"

Roddenberry didn't want conflict on the ship because he had this ridiculous notion then in the future human beings will reach the point where we all live in peace and no one ever says or does anything bad and we're all morally perfect and live in a Utopia.

And as he got older and sicker and nearer to death, his views on the matter became more and more extreme. There was a 100% turnover in both the writers and the executive producers in the first season, and into the second. They found Roddenberry to be impossible to work with.

One right around tg&g described it in the following way "it was like being invited over to your friend's house and he had this great model train, and you hoped you'd be able to play with it, but then he would just push you aside and demand that you do nothing but watch him while he played with it.". They were so happy when initially hired to get a chance to work on a Star Trek series only to discover that Roddenberry didn't want them have any input it all into the series

It was only after Roddenberry started getting sick and stop showing up to the set that the writers felt the freedom to do what they wanted with the series.

@autoexec.batman said:

@Nexus71 said:

What you want more FX shots of Enterprise flying into V'ger and scenes of crewmen looking at screens?

There is already a director cut on DVD, it is an improvement over the theatrical cut. But it is not available in Blu Ray and probably never will be because they are unlikely to get a return on investment.

It is definitely an improvement over the theatrical cut. They put in a couple of scenes where humans interact and cut away several minutes of the crew staring at special effects.

I own this DVD. It is less bad than what people saw in the theaters, but it isn't something I would watch every week. I certainly wouldn't shell out money for the BluRay.

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