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Citizen Kane has topped the Sight & Sound polls since decades. Which film do you think could take its spot in the it in the future?

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@chrimas15 said:

Citizen Kane has topped the Sight & Sound polls since decades. Which film do you think could take its spot in the it in the future?

It was already topped by Vertigo.

@chrimas15 said:

Citizen Kane has topped the Sight & Sound polls since decades. Which film do you think could take its spot in the it in the future?

Hard to say. There's a certain element of tradition in these polls. Is Citizen Kane really that much better than every other film that came after, including more recent "perfect" pictures like The Godfather: Part 2? Or perhaps a culturally-influential film like Reservoir Dogs? Or even an animated film that was wildly successful, like Toy Story 3? And what makes Sight and Sound THE authority on what the best film is?

I think that organizations like S&S are forced to pick familiar, well-regarded titles for their "Top-Ten" lists because it's expected of them. By choosing such old, classic films it lends them a scholarly air, like a professor that walks around with Chaucer tucked under his arm. Does reading Chaucer mean they're more erudite than the rest of us, or is it simply an act of pretention?

Any time someone makes such a list, though, whether it's in a magazine or on YouTube it's always ridiculously subjective and in the end means something only to those that permit S&S, or PewDiePie, to dictate taste.

I enjoyed Citizen Kane, but if I want to watch an Orson Welles movie I'd much rather watch The Third Man any day of the week. In that era, I much prefer The Maltese Falcon (released the same year) or The Big Sleep. But no, I don't think any film will displace Citizen Kane, perhaps ever, because there's simply too much tradition behind the choice.

@chrimas15 said:

Citizen Kane has topped the Sight & Sound polls since decades. Which film do you think could take its spot in the it in the future?

Too many to list. Too many to count.

At some point the Star Wars nerds will have their way and it will become the top movie... Citizen Kane was made in the 1940s, Vertigo in the 1950s... by the time another generation of film critic dies out it will be Star Wars' turn as it was made in 1970s... Star Wars people are already making it to the top of industry and politics around the world...

Don't worry, it's still a long time until the generation raised on marvel and pixar movies starts defining cinema... thankfully they're too young ;)

Just kidding... I think Godfather I or II will make it. The original versions, not the ones on netflix that are reedited. The Godfather is a massive influence on the generation of directors that came after it... Even directors born after the film was released are influenced by it... Gordon Willis' cinematography changed the way narrative films were shot... and every male actor has wanted to be Pacino or De Niro in the Godfather at some point... I think it's a matter of time before it starts making it's way to the top of the lists...

Personally, I'm undecided about which is the greater film between Godfather I&II, Vertigo and Citizen Kane... Interesting discussion guys...

There are 2,073,186 movies that are more interesting and fun to watch than Citizen Kane.

@Invidia I can't see the link to the clip that compares Citizen Kane and the Godfather...

No problem. Thanks for the link.

@Invidia said:

@jann said:

There are 2,073,186 movies that are more interesting and fun to watch than Citizen Kane.

But is the purpose of watching a film to just have fun???

For the most part, yes.

And if the answer was yes, then wouldn't we just have COMEDY with no other stories that contained TRAGEDY or Drama?

No, because "fun" doesn't always have to mean that you're laughing at something. Horror can be fun, mystery can be fun, suspense can be fun. I myself am not overly fond of drama as a genre, but usually drama does include comic relief moments. The point is, every individual has their own idea of what is "fun" and watching movies is, supposed to be fun in the sense that it's supposed to entertaining.

"Citizen Kane" isn't THAT boring, but I have always believed it is critically acclaimed for its technical aspects - which I will not pretend to even understand - more than anything else.

@jann said:

There are 2,073,186 movies that are more interesting and fun to watch than Citizen Kane.

I agree relaxed

@Invidia said:

@ausfem said:

@jann said:

There are 2,073,186 movies that are more interesting and fun to watch than Citizen Kane.

I agree relaxed

Usually people who don't like or appreciate a film like KANE are also the type who like for things to be SPOON FED to them ....

as if they were also still a little baby sitting there inside of a High Chair.

But there are also others who don't like having things SPOON FED to them, and would prefer to do the job themselves.

Because if you're SPOON FED EVERYTHING, then what do you have left at the end of a film like that?

NOT MUCH.

No reason to GO BACK and WATCH it again in order to try to find the things in it that you may have missed the first time you watched it.

Because when everything in it is SPELLED OUT for you or is SPOON FED to you, then there's also no reason to go back and watch it again.

And that's still another reason why a film like KANE can be MORE FUN for those who aren't the lazy type and like to REWATCH a film again to find things in it that you may have missed upon your first or second or third or forth viewing of it.

So there you go.

That's also the GIST of it.

It's pretty much also a case of "Different strokes for different folks."

For those who LIKE to be SPOON FED.

And for those who DON'T.

wink

No need to be insulting just because I don't agree or like a movie that others do. We all have different tastes and opinions. It just so happens I'm not a Citizen Kane fan. So get off your high horse.

I'd steer away from using ALL CAPS... it reads as if you are screaming those words... Just a message board tip so you're not misunderstood.

Idk maybe Vertigo but that sounds a bit far fetched to me

@testr said:

Idk maybe Vertigo but that sounds a bit far fetched to me

Vertigo is at the top. Here's a link to the site. Although it hasn't been updated for over a year (June 2021).

https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/greatest-films-all-time

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