@AlienFanatic said:

@Russ007 said:

Why couldn't a chestburster impregnate somebody in seconds?

Crucially, these chestbursters aren't the same ones that we saw in previous films. They are David's creation and he could've made the transition time under a minute. Maybe the ones we saw in Alien(s) weren't acting normally... Maybe they behave less chaotic when they are in specific situations (air/atm pressure) and so the gestation period is longer. It could change their metabolism for all we know.

There never was a rule of how long it could take, so I don't get why you guys can't accept it as it is. In the Alien universe it must explain itself (otherwise it couldn't happen and it contradicts the film). Everyone accepted the Queen Alien in the 2nd movie and then looked for explanations and that is what needs to happen for the chestburster in AC.

David's FH impregnates Oram in a ridiculously short time. Orem is gone a very brief time, and clearly not long enough for any of the other crew to even notice he's gone. The FH doesn't seem to require nearly as long to finish its cycle. In what universe does David, supposedly obsessed with breeding the "perfect organism" (that stupid callback to Ash's monologue), create a future facehugger that takes LONGER to impregnate and whose offspring, the chestburster, comes out without arms and legs while its antecedent arrives not only fully-formed but emotionally attached to its creator?

It's absolute nonsense from start to finish and wholly inconsistent with the film it's trying to set up. Scott created all kinds of issues in Prometheus that he tasked his writers with retconning to fit the Alien storyline. The hamfisted way in which the writers crafted A:C is evident from the first frame to the last. Now, they have an even more impossible task for any sequels to explain why none--absolutely NONE--of the Alien's attributes line up an where a descendant is less developed, slower, bulkier, and takes longer to gestate.

Ridiculous._

We really have no idea if David's FH are the ones we see in Alien. They are probably 10th Generation of random mutations after the last time he tampers with them, for all we know. So his perfect organism isn't 'his' when they land on the planet in the first film. On the other hand, these FH might not even originate from David's species. You're assuming too much. Let's wait until the sequel which better tie all these loose knots.

Also, maybe the rate of successful Xeno births increases if the FHs stay on longer like in the first movie. Meaning that the ones in AC are actually less evolved and less perfect of an organism. They never said that 1 FH attack equates to 1 successful Xeno birth. Maybe there is a certain percent that don't burst because they are weak/malnourished for example. (I also speculate that Xeno twins, that burst simultaneously, are a possibilty.)

@Russ007 said:

@AlienFanatic said:

@Russ007 said:

Why couldn't a chestburster impregnate somebody in seconds?

Crucially, these chestbursters aren't the same ones that we saw in previous films. They are David's creation and he could've made the transition time under a minute. Maybe the ones we saw in Alien(s) weren't acting normally... Maybe they behave less chaotic when they are in specific situations (air/atm pressure) and so the gestation period is longer. It could change their metabolism for all we know.

There never was a rule of how long it could take, so I don't get why you guys can't accept it as it is. In the Alien universe it must explain itself (otherwise it couldn't happen and it contradicts the film). Everyone accepted the Queen Alien in the 2nd movie and then looked for explanations and that is what needs to happen for the chestburster in AC.

David's FH impregnates Oram in a ridiculously short time. Orem is gone a very brief time, and clearly not long enough for any of the other crew to even notice he's gone. The FH doesn't seem to require nearly as long to finish its cycle. In what universe does David, supposedly obsessed with breeding the "perfect organism" (that stupid callback to Ash's monologue), create a future facehugger that takes LONGER to impregnate and whose offspring, the chestburster, comes out without arms and legs while its antecedent arrives not only fully-formed but emotionally attached to its creator?

It's absolute nonsense from start to finish and wholly inconsistent with the film it's trying to set up. Scott created all kinds of issues in Prometheus that he tasked his writers with retconning to fit the Alien storyline. The hamfisted way in which the writers crafted A:C is evident from the first frame to the last. Now, they have an even more impossible task for any sequels to explain why none--absolutely NONE--of the Alien's attributes line up an where a descendant is less developed, slower, bulkier, and takes longer to gestate.

Ridiculous._

We really have no idea if David's FH are the ones we see in Alien. They are probably 10th Generation of random mutations after the last time he tampers with them, for all we know. So his perfect organism isn't 'his' when they land on the planet in the first film. On the other hand, these FH might not even originate from David's species. You're assuming too much. Let's wait until the sequel which better tie all these loose knots.

Also, maybe the rate of successful Xeno births increases if the FHs stay on longer like in the first movie. Meaning that the ones in AC are actually less evolved and less perfect of an organism. They never said that 1 FH attack equates to 1 successful Xeno birth. Maybe there is a certain percent that don't burst because they are weak/malnourished for example. (I also speculate that Xeno twins, that burst simultaneously, are a possibilty.)

That's pretty charitable. All those xenomorphs from the first three movies were just malnourished or something, so they took longer?

I hope they come up with a better explanation if they end up making more of these. But the way its going, I have a feeling they won't bother trying to explain the inconsistencies at all.

@FlyingSaucersAreReal said:

@Russ007 said:

@AlienFanatic said:

@Russ007 said:

Why couldn't a chestburster impregnate somebody in seconds?

Crucially, these chestbursters aren't the same ones that we saw in previous films. They are David's creation and he could've made the transition time under a minute. Maybe the ones we saw in Alien(s) weren't acting normally... Maybe they behave less chaotic when they are in specific situations (air/atm pressure) and so the gestation period is longer. It could change their metabolism for all we know.

There never was a rule of how long it could take, so I don't get why you guys can't accept it as it is. In the Alien universe it must explain itself (otherwise it couldn't happen and it contradicts the film). Everyone accepted the Queen Alien in the 2nd movie and then looked for explanations and that is what needs to happen for the chestburster in AC.

David's FH impregnates Oram in a ridiculously short time. Orem is gone a very brief time, and clearly not long enough for any of the other crew to even notice he's gone. The FH doesn't seem to require nearly as long to finish its cycle. In what universe does David, supposedly obsessed with breeding the "perfect organism" (that stupid callback to Ash's monologue), create a future facehugger that takes LONGER to impregnate and whose offspring, the chestburster, comes out without arms and legs while its antecedent arrives not only fully-formed but emotionally attached to its creator?

It's absolute nonsense from start to finish and wholly inconsistent with the film it's trying to set up. Scott created all kinds of issues in Prometheus that he tasked his writers with retconning to fit the Alien storyline. The hamfisted way in which the writers crafted A:C is evident from the first frame to the last. Now, they have an even more impossible task for any sequels to explain why none--absolutely NONE--of the Alien's attributes line up an where a descendant is less developed, slower, bulkier, and takes longer to gestate.

Ridiculous._

We really have no idea if David's FH are the ones we see in Alien. They are probably 10th Generation of random mutations after the last time he tampers with them, for all we know. So his perfect organism isn't 'his' when they land on the planet in the first film. On the other hand, these FH might not even originate from David's species. You're assuming too much. Let's wait until the sequel which better tie all these loose knots.

Also, maybe the rate of successful Xeno births increases if the FHs stay on longer like in the first movie. Meaning that the ones in AC are actually less evolved and less perfect of an organism. They never said that 1 FH attack equates to 1 successful Xeno birth. Maybe there is a certain percent that don't burst because they are weak/malnourished for example. (I also speculate that Xeno twins, that burst simultaneously, are a possibilty.)

That's pretty charitable. All those xenomorphs from the first three movies were just malnourished or something, so they took longer?

I hope they come up with a better explanation if they end up making more of these. But the way its going, I have a feeling they won't bother trying to explain the inconsistencies at all.

Not what I was insinuating, @FlyingSaucersAreReal . I was just explaining why a longer 'facehug' could mean it was more advanced. (AlienFanatic thought that meant the exact opposite.) A quick facehug would likely have a lesser chance of a successful Xenomorph birth. So although the FH acts faster, there is less chance for there to be offspring, ergo it is not as advanced and it's not as perfect as those in Alien.