I have no words...
It's just the height of absurdity that an advanced team of astronauts would do the things they do:
Alter their mission that was more than likely a decade or more in the making. Open the door upon landing, jump right out, and start hiking around sans helmets. Hike off into the unknown looking for source of a radio transmission on an unknown, unclassified planet. Fire weapons at their own ship. Risk total inhalation of the main ship plus 2,000+ souls aboard just to rescue a small landing party.
And
The sail on a ship that advanced would have retracted the instant an impending threat was sensed by the ship.
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Réponse de Knixon
le 30 mai 2017 à 00h17
Sounds like a recurring bit for a new Muppet Show. But these days it would have to be given a PC nonsense name, like "Differently-Abled Humans In Space."
Réponse de simian_ninja
le 31 mai 2017 à 03h15
I had zero empathy with the characters, there was nothing that made me care about them whatsoever. I didn't even like Prometheus but I found this hard to watch because it felt more or less like they were destroying Prometheus rather than add anything of substance to it.
Réponse de Knixon
le 31 mai 2017 à 03h26
Some seem to be claiming that Ridley Scott did that because of protests/demands from 'fans' of Prometheus to do so, but that doesn't make sense either.
Réponse de MongoLloyd
le 31 mai 2017 à 20h40
Prometheus was a monument to stupidity. There wasn't a single smart thing the characters did, including the synth. It was one dumbass thing after another which makes it very hard to empathize.
Réponse de simian_ninja
le 2 juin 2017 à 07h57
After seeing Alien: Covenant I think I prefer the characters in Prometheus. And I hated that movie.
Réponse de Bobby vs Satan
le 4 juin 2017 à 16h59
I think Ridley or John Logan must think we'll crew future, advanced and arduous space missions with the cast of Big Brother. I can't believe he did it again. It was the glaring, lazy mistake from Prometheus. The crew's decision making and generally unsatisfying behavior in the roles of being supposedly highly trained and intelligent people. Even though Covenant had more of the visceral moments I like, I still prefer Prometheus overall to it. I just hope they actually give Neill Blomkamp a chance to do his Alien movie as I can't imagine seeing another one of Ridley's.
Réponse de Knixon
le 4 juin 2017 à 17h33
The evidence seems pretty clear that Ridley Scott can make a great-LOOKING movie from a good script. But he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the script-writing process. Or even allowed to decide things like that the huge elephantine alien creatures will now be tall pale humanoids.
Réponse de MongoLloyd
le 4 juin 2017 à 21h16
It's a formula that works for them so expect more of it in the future. Studios have proven again and again that they can make money with weak scripts, a celebrity cast, and over the top special effects. We know beyond the shadow of a doubt that they have no problem producing all three of these items.
Réponse de Knixon
le 4 juin 2017 à 21h32
Blomkamp has been said to be figuring on a movie that is sometimes called Alien 5, but it might be more accurately called Alien 3 Redux or something, since he's reportedly going to ignore the previous Alien 3 and 4.
If he's going to ignore two existing movies, I'd rather he make a better prequel to the original Alien, and ignore Prometheus and Covenant.
Réponse de Markus Birth
le 5 août 2017 à 09h39
You forgot:
Yeah, CloudFront doesn't allow me to change this post.
Réponse de Rtodd110
le 10 août 2017 à 03h36
and if anybody did the things all you "smart" people claim they'd do then the horror genre wouldn't exist
stfu already about this. morons complaining about the stupidity of characters in a horror movie, who is dumber? I think the prize goes to the ones who fail to suspend belief, yet are willing to in almost all other movies. They pulled all the research they could from the planet and found it to be identical to the planet they were going to colonize. ok, that isn't a full proof answer to doing what they did, but move on and go with the fucking movie. Alien was equally as dumb. For miners to go explore a foreign planet and go inside a derelict spaceship. Or how about Aliens, a platoon of marines going into a colony that they have lost all communication with? You would really just send a platoon blindly and one apparently crazy pilot raving about aliens? These movies are based on people doing stupid things.
you can pick holes through it to all degrees, but this is getting petty and people are forgetting what made these movies classics in the first place.
This movie went back to that and has some awesome concepts. If anything it was the fan bitching that created the cliche audience friendly shit 3rd act of the movie.
I love that ridley scott has clearly somewhat given the middle finger to the typical audience and continues to explore and expand ideas he wants to. LIke i said, I wish he could've finished the 3rd act of the movie as strong as the first two.
Réponse de Knixon
le 10 août 2017 à 04h12
Well, just to point out one flaw from your analysis or whatever it is: the miners or "space truckers" didn't want to be there, they were pressured into it by company rules that said they wouldn't get paid for their contract if they didn't.
Réponse de northcoast
le 10 août 2017 à 04h46
Going along with what Rtodd110 said, if we were to strip away all of the action resulting from the crew's nonsensical decisions, there'd be audience members walking out and saying "BOR-ING!!!".
Compare this movie to a film like "Arrival" (2016), which really tried a more thoughtful, low-key approach to alien contact, and you had people saying just that:
"Where's the action?! C'mon . . . more explosions, more frantic dialogue, gimme some laser guns, SOMETHING!" (Sadly, I even heard older fans criticizing along these lines). Heck, even "2001: A Space Odyssey" seems to be getting a little more, similar criticism nowadays (too slow!). Perhaps this is the result of our ever-faster, less-contemplative society.
To me, "Alien: Covenant" was little more than a summer popcorn action movie, great visuals, as others have said, but a weak script. I'd give it a 3 out of 5.
"Covenant" does remind you, however, of just how difficult it would be to explore a planet that is seemingly completely habitable-- in many ways it would be more difficult than exploring a planet like Mars. Though everything looks fine, with a breathable atmosphere, literally everything, at first, would be a potential threat. That water might not really be water. The grass on the ground would be unknown. That little bug that looks like an ant might in fact carry some deadly disease that could kill you. Thousands and thousands of previously-unknown plant and animal species would have to be studied before there could be a modicum of safety for a landing party walking around without environment suits.
Oh, well . . . we're never going to explore a planet like that (with breathable atmosphere) anyway . . . (too impractical to reach, according to the laws of physics and the poor durability of our technology; heck, Windows 10 seems to freeze up after every lengthy update, and it's 2017! We haven't even gone back to the Moon yet!).
At least we can watch the movies, and dream.
Réponse de Knixon
le 10 août 2017 à 05h04
I just don't think it's mutually exclusive to have an action movie where people aren't making really dumb mistakes all the time. Maybe it just takes more work than people like Scott and (perhaps especially) Lindelof are capable of or willing to do.
Réponse de Midi-chlorian_Count
le 10 août 2017 à 05h26
Thanks for the spoiler title - I had absolutely no idea what this film would be about and now it's been completely ruined...