She was only 6 years younger than Fisher! Ford was 14 years older than Fisher!

But Fisher, at least, was an adult.

@Tresix said:

But Fisher, at least, was an adult.

I have never seen any of the Star Wars franchise(no wish to, thought is was more child-oriented). But do Princess Leia & Solo have any scenes that could be considered to be 'sexual'?

@bratface said:

@Tresix said:

But Fisher, at least, was an adult.

I have never seen any of the Star Wars franchise(no wish to, thought is was more child-oriented). But do Princess Leia & Solo have any scenes that could be considered to be 'sexual'?

Wow. You may be the only person on the planet to have that rare condition!

It was definitely geared to a young audience, and I have major gripes that Star Wars dumbed down the genre of scifi forevermore, but the films are fun & entertaining, so if that's what you're after it's money well spent.

From what I remember, there wasn't anything really sexual in the 1st movie, or any of trilogy really. Just some implied attraction while dissing each other. I think their first kiss comes near the end of Empire Strikes Back with the famous line... "I love you." "I know."

One thing that creeped me out though was the (unofficial?) 1978 sequel novel to Star Wars, "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" written by Alan Dean Foster. Anyone remember that? Alan Dean Foster was the uncredited ghost writer of Star Wars, and after the success of the film he wrote his sequel. The creepy part is in "Splinter" there's an encounter between Luke & Leia (just a kiss but pretty sexually charged). I wonder how Lucas let that go, since he must've signed off on it. Maybe he hadn't come up with the brother sister thing yet?

@rooprect said:

@bratface said:

@Tresix said:

But Fisher, at least, was an adult.

I have never seen any of the Star Wars franchise(no wish to, thought is was more child-oriented). But do Princess Leia & Solo have any scenes that could be considered to be 'sexual'?

Wow. You may be the only person on the planet to have that rare condition!

It was definitely geared to a young audience, and I have major gripes that Star Wars dumbed down the genre of scifi forevermore, but the films are fun & entertaining, so if that's what you're after it's money well spent.

From what I remember, there wasn't anything really sexual in the 1st movie, or any of trilogy really. Just some implied attraction while dissing each other. I think their first kiss comes near the end of Empire Strikes Back with the famous line... "I love you." "I know."

One thing that creeped me out though was the (unofficial?) 1978 sequel novel to Star Wars, "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" written by Alan Dean Foster. Anyone remember that? Alan Dean Foster was the uncredited ghost writer of Star Wars, and after the success of the film he wrote his sequel. The creepy part is in "Splinter" there's an encounter between Luke & Leia (just a kiss but pretty sexually charged). I wonder how Lucas let that go, since he must've signed off on it. Maybe he hadn't come up with the brother sister thing yet?

I think the kiss comes closer to the midway point. When they’re being chased through the asteroid field. I wouldn’t say it’s sexual, but it’s still kind of creepy for a 38-year-old guy to be smooching a teenager.

@rooprect said:

One thing that creeped me out though was the (unofficial?) 1978 sequel novel to Star Wars, "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" written by Alan Dean Foster. Anyone remember that? Alan Dean Foster was the uncredited ghost writer of Star Wars, and after the success of the film he wrote his sequel. The creepy part is in "Splinter" there's an encounter between Luke & Leia (just a kiss but pretty sexually charged). I wonder how Lucas let that go, since he must've signed off on it. Maybe he hadn't come up with the brother sister thing yet?

The scene with Leia kissing Luke has been edited in the new version of the movie, just like what happened with the one where Han Solo shot first.

@wonder2wonder said:

The scene with Leia kissing Luke has been edited in the new version of the movie, just like what happened with the one where Han Solo shot first.

Wwwaaaait a minute, wonder2wonder. Are you saying that the kiss between Leia and Luke in Empire Strikes Back has been deleted entirely?

I have the Blu-Ray set from 2013 and it's still there . . . but are you saying newer releases do not have that scene?

I'm not advocating for incest here, but I DO have a problem with older films being edited for a present generation that seems overly sensitive. We can't learn from artistic history of the past (whether it be film, literature, or whatever) if that history is constantly altered.

I've even read recently that previous versions of the James Bond movies are going to have the cigarette smoking edited out, although I read that this previous April 1, so I am hoping it was an April Fools Joke.

@northcoast said:

@wonder2wonder said:

The scene with Leia kissing Luke has been edited in the new version of the movie, just like what happened with the one where Han Solo shot first.

Wwwaaaait a minute, wonder2wonder. Are you saying that the kiss between Leia and Luke in Empire Strikes Back has been deleted entirely?

I have the Blu-Ray set from 2013 and it's still there . . . but are you saying newer releases do not have that scene?

I'm not advocating for incest here, but I DO have a problem with older films being edited for a present generation that seems overly sensitive. We can't learn from artistic history of the past (whether it be film, literature, or whatever) if that history is constantly altered.

I've even read recently that previous versions of the James Bond movies are going to have the cigarette smoking edited out, although I read that this previous April 1, so I am hoping it was an April Fools Joke.

Hmmm... I heard that too. Just have to wait for the new versions of Star Wars, James Bond, and other assumed 'offensive' movies, and what is shown on the streaming services, to know for certain. It's lucky that you have a hard copy.

@northcoast said:

@wonder2wonder said:

The scene with Leia kissing Luke has been edited in the new version of the movie, just like what happened with the one where Han Solo shot first.

Wwwaaaait a minute, wonder2wonder. Are you saying that the kiss between Leia and Luke in Empire Strikes Back has been deleted entirely?

I have the Blu-Ray set from 2013 and it's still there . . . but are you saying newer releases do not have that scene?

I'm not advocating for incest here, but I DO have a problem with older films being edited for a present generation that seems overly sensitive. We can't learn from artistic history of the past (whether it be film, literature, or whatever) if that history is constantly altered.

I've even read recently that previous versions of the James Bond movies are going to have the cigarette smoking edited out, although I read that this previous April 1, so I am hoping it was an April Fools Joke.

Well, TPTB have edited the books. I thought I read an article (last year) about the movies being edited for a UK audience (but I could be wrong.

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/james-bond-novels-edited-racism-1235536164/

@rooprect said:

@bratface said:

@Tresix said:

But Fisher, at least, was an adult.

I have never seen any of the Star Wars franchise(no wish to, thought is was more child-oriented). But do Princess Leia & Solo have any scenes that could be considered to be 'sexual'?

Wow. You may be the only person on the planet to have that rare condition!

It was definitely geared to a young audience, and I have major gripes that Star Wars dumbed down the genre of scifi forevermore, but the films are fun & entertaining, so if that's what you're after it's money well spent.

From what I remember, there wasn't anything really sexual in the 1st movie, or any of trilogy really. Just some implied attraction while dissing each other. I think their first kiss comes near the end of Empire Strikes Back with the famous line... "I love you." "I know."

One thing that creeped me out though was the (unofficial?) 1978 sequel novel to Star Wars, "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" written by Alan Dean Foster. Anyone remember that? Alan Dean Foster was the uncredited ghost writer of Star Wars, and after the success of the film he wrote his sequel. The creepy part is in "Splinter" there's an encounter between Luke & Leia (just a kiss but pretty sexually charged). I wonder how Lucas let that go, since he must've signed off on it. Maybe he hadn't come up with the brother sister thing yet?

I don't think I'm the only one. 🤔

@Tresix said:

Foster was recently on a talk show and mentioned that she was up for the role of Princess Leia in this movie. She said she could not do it because she was under contract to make a Disney movie at the time (I think it may have been Candleshoe which was also released in 1977). Maybe it was a good thing that Foster wasn’t able to do it: She would have been 15 at the time while Harrison Ford, Han Solo, was 35. Foster would have been 18 when The Empire Strikes Back came out with Ford being 38! Their romantic relationship would have seemed a little…unsettling, to say the least.

But you don't think it's 'unsettling' that she played a 12-year-old prostitute (she was 14) a year earlier in Taxi Driver?

@bratface said:

@Tresix said:

Foster was recently on a talk show and mentioned that she was up for the role of Princess Leia in this movie. She said she could not do it because she was under contract to make a Disney movie at the time (I think it may have been Candleshoe which was also released in 1977). Maybe it was a good thing that Foster wasn’t able to do it: She would have been 15 at the time while Harrison Ford, Han Solo, was 35. Foster would have been 18 when The Empire Strikes Back came out with Ford being 38! Their romantic relationship would have seemed a little…unsettling, to say the least.

But you don't think it's 'unsettling' that she played a 12-year-old prostitute (she was 14) a year earlier in Taxi Driver?

Yes, because it was SUPPOSED to be unsettling. Seeing her in that situation, more or less, kind of pushes Travis over the edge. Taxi Driver and Star Wars are not (for lack of a better phrase) in the same universe.