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This movie hurt film and TV entertainment in general
posted by Benton12STAFFMOD on February 28, 2024 at 10:40 AM
Not because of gore. Plenty of that on film before this too.
The reason this film hurts entertainment is that it was a sequel to an earlier film that was earlier by 23 years. It is cannon. This is what happened to Norman Bates after he was committed.
Here is the problem. TV episodes and film series are held together only very, very loosely in fact. It was really traumatic to take a movie nothing had been done with for way over twenty years and suddenly sequel it. It was in the last days this was possible. If this movie had been the first sequel thirty years or more after the original it really would not have counted. Too many years would have gone by.
Future entertainment tried to make sequels to TV shows and movie shows that had been gone for decades. Like the 1998 sequel to the 1968 movie 'The Odd Couple' . It was just wrong. And did not count as canon!
Reply by bratface
on February 28, 2024 at 4:36 PM
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2188671/
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/46786-bates-motel
Also, the word is CANON! A cannon is a weapon.
Reply by Benton12
on February 28, 2024 at 7:59 PM
The TV Odd Couple was in a different fictional universe than film.
Reply by RockySullivan
on February 29, 2024 at 5:17 AM
I once saw the poet Amiri Baraka do some wordplay with these two words in a public engagement.
This film has one of the most shocking endings I have seen in a horror movie, ever.
Reply by bratface
on February 29, 2024 at 1:45 PM
I haven't seen this, how does it end? When I google it, I get different answers.
Reply by RockySullivan
on February 29, 2024 at 6:05 PM
A woman who's supposed to be Norman Bates's mother gets clocked in the head with a shovel, IIRC (if I remember correctly)!
Anyone who knows the film better than I do, feel free to correct me, please.
Reply by Benton12
on March 1, 2024 at 12:35 AM
Correct. But again stuff like that did not make the film poison.
Reply by Benton12
on March 1, 2024 at 12:36 AM
seen
Reply by RockySullivan
on March 1, 2024 at 3:43 AM
Actually, Benton, I enjoyed the shock value of it.
I feel the same about the sequel as you do.
Reply by Benton12
on March 1, 2024 at 7:58 AM
You feel it was almost too long to be made a sequel of?
Fine if you like the shock value. But it was not what the movie so bad. Though thinking back on it it looked the actress was at risk and of getting hurt in the scene. That's another point.
As for spelling of cannon/canon. It's too slim a point. And too interchangeable.
Reply by Benton12
on March 1, 2024 at 8:21 AM
In the summer of 1981 I remember how newspaper movie ad pages were semi-full of gory horror film ads. Therefore, I realize full well this film being made after that did no damage that way.
Reply by RockySullivan
on March 1, 2024 at 8:25 AM
Hell yeah! Those kinds of movies proliferated back then. What Baraka did was to actually end his speech talking about how some folks have a "cannon!" We got what he meant right away.
Reply by bratface
on March 1, 2024 at 1:11 PM
THAT WOULD BE A HUGE NOPE!
Reply by RockySullivan
on March 2, 2024 at 6:21 AM
One has to make a huge leap just to put together much of Benton's language here sometimes. Still, I agree.
Reply by bratface
on March 2, 2024 at 2:23 PM
With whom?
Reply by Benton12
on March 3, 2024 at 1:58 AM
Remember the original point why Psycho 2 was harmful.