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Don't want to make anything to complicated for today's audience I guess

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Maybe Hollywood has learned after three female orientated movies failing First Terminator,then Charlie's Angels and now Bird Of Pray.

Calling critics racists/sexists/homophobes is just a shield used to deflect sound logical arguments as to why it's terrible, evidenced by how much actual ST fans have gravitated to The Orville which is far far closer to classic Trek and what Trek was always about. The Orville has great likeable female characters, diverse characters (both in race and species), and it has a main character who is gay and gay married with a transgender child and it's good because it's handled so well, so please, spare us all your virtue signaling BS, it doesn't work on us, we have 900+ virtue signaling armor, you can't beat it.

And you Sir are Exhibit A of the ST "fan" I am referring to. The hyper critical ST fan who is using rubbish arguments to hide their latent Racism, Sexism and Homophobia....or perhaps you don't even realize it yet.

If you think"TO" has likeable female characters (both in race and species) and it's gay and trans characters are favorably presented you are DELUSIONAL. But certainly , if you think TO is better PLEASE, please watch it and let us watch ST in peace. I honestly don't think there is any point it TRYING to show you how horrible TO's portrayal of the ONLY gay family is. How the presentation of everything get progressively more horrible the more it moves away from White and Male. And , Yes the female characters are EXACTLY as you like them, blonde with big boobs and SUBSERVIENT to Mr White Male, regardless!

It's not "actual ST fans" who have gravitated to "The Orville". ST never took delight in laughing at "the other", quite the opposite in fact. It is the R's and S's who can't find ANYTHING in ST to feed their hate that are turning to TO. Think about WHY you like TO so much. I say good riddance!

** No, other planets never had/don't have cannibalism, etc.

Why?

Because whitey never got there **

Knixon,

You have PLENTY to feel guilty for. There is no need to TRY to DEFLECT from your CRIMES by suggesting well, " gosh darn it, we must be responsible for everything EVIL in the universe" Besides, if you were REALLY paying attention you would realize that the inclusion of cannibalism etc ST is NOT necessarily to suggest an "evil" . Think about that!

And your defense of the Muslim Ban? Let me get this right it is two fold, right? 1) It is not a complete Muslim ban because Indonesia is not included and 2) Even if it were, Obama did it, so there! Right? Why can't you guys get over the fact that Obama was President? Is that like the BEDROCK of the RACIST philosophy for you?

Knixon, let me suggest you filter EVERY STUPID thought that walks into your head, before you belch it out, in the future. Remember the thug who entered your house and has raped and mutilated your family? Well this guy now has some power in your State and wants to bans ALL guns from households. The courts allow him to ban guns only in households with children: LIKE YOURS! The reason is because SOME gun owners have been robbing banks in your State. True, he has NOT totally banned ALL guns because people who aren't married and don't have kids aren't affected. How much comfort will you have in THAT situation? Besides, Trump's original intent was "a complete and total ban" No, it was Obama, the man you love to hate, who created a ban based on TRUE need!

no one is offended by women or non-white people being in charge,

Oh really? I KNOW Nexus and Knixon certainly took offense and were QUITE vocal about it...earlier on. They won't admit that now, but they don't DARE deny it either. Why would I make up such hideous things about them? I am telling you the TRUTH!!!! You just don't want to hear it.

no one is offended by women or non-white people being in charge,

Yet the push is for a new show with two White male characters leading! Not better scripts; not better writing, better uniforms; better stories ; not more canon necessarily. Indeed, according to most, the way Pike and Spock were presented was EXCELLENT! Well guess what? the very SAME writers who created P/S also created MB and Captain Georgio! Can't you at least admit the IRONY of complaining about the writing on a show where you all praise, and scream and STILL demand a Pike/Spock show? Finally, you mentioned bad writing a lot: give me a few examples, they were so bad, it should be easy!

Your thought process is so soaked in identity politics you can't even see that you're the bigot

I am the bigot because I point out your BIGOTRY? Trump has taught you guys well and you all lap it up. I HAVE accused people here of saying racists and sexist things. THEY HAVEN'T DENIED THEM, YET I am "the bigot"?!?!

I have NEVER, NEVER argued the strength or success of a character based on on race, it will NEVER occur to me. I ALWAYS give context to my comments about a character after careful thought. That is why it is SO EASY for me to recognize when others are NOT doing the same.

OMG I am so sick of get woke go broke mentality it is ruining every franchise out there all to please a very vocal minority.

When you have to reach for 'slogans' to address reasonable arguments that you can not otherwise defeat OR you have to resort to the "we have bigger numbers defense" YOU HAVE LOST!

Welcome Oduntola to my ignore list sick of these SJWs lol

"I am sick of TRUE Star Trek" he says as he sticks his head BACK in the sand! Bye Felicia!

Maybe Picard has to come to school on a Saturday as punishment.And the 80's were more than the Simple Minds and New Gold Dream and it's direct follow up were when Simple Minds still was a good band after that single it went downhill with them.Besides I would rather hear "Shout" and "Songs From The Big Chair" blazing through those speaker.

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