Item: Specials
Language: en-US
Type of Problem: Incorrect_content
Extra Details: Episodes 1-3 are not specials. They are regular content and need to be moved to Season One.
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Reply by superboy97
on April 15, 2024 at 5:21 AM
Read the messages from Banana at the start of this discussion.
Reply by DavidKDean
on April 15, 2024 at 5:32 AM
I read them... From 5 years ago... They are as relevant now as they were then...
They asked for evidence... Evidence has been provided... In fact their biggeset dispute was the gap between Episode 3 and 4... Which has already been addressed - And they would have found that info had they looked themselves... You can easily look up Hasbro's legal issues from 1984/85 with GoBots and Mighty Orbots... That isn't hidden from the public view...
"Physical and digital releases frequently have a different order/season split."
In fact they tried to make an issue about the release order and splits... Which has ALWAYS been the same from ALL releases of the show!
Further - And the most alarming issue... Bannana only posted twice... And NEVER addressed what was brought up... Not sure why you feel the need to even bring his comments up... As they add NOTHING of relevance here any longer...
Can YOU provide 1 example of Season 1 NOT having "More Than Meets the Eye, Part (n)"? You are asking for evidence - Which has been provided - But telling us we CAN'T use the offical creators and THEIR releases as evidence... But I would challenge YOU to provide evidence that what Hasbro has given as the offical release is NOT correct...
Reply by superboy97
on April 15, 2024 at 5:34 AM
Until now, no evidence about the original broadcast have been provided.
Reply by DavidKDean
on April 15, 2024 at 5:50 AM
I simply don't understand this... The issue is it they have ALWAYS been part of Season 1... Can you provide evidence it hasn't? In fact - Without using Hasbro - Can you provide evidence that ANY episode is part of Season 1?! There is NO release from 84 on that has been made by Hasbro that does NOT include the first 3 epsidoes...
Again this was in Sep of 1984... When they were in a legal battle with HB's GoBots... The miniseries didn't even have a name at that time UNTIL Season 1 was offical! It has ALWAYS been part of Season 1 SINCE that point in time!
When someone looks up the show and they see this nonsense - They will assume (incorrectly) that Season 1 has 13 Episodes starting with "Transport to Oblivion". It is THIS sites job to ensure that correct information is given... And this is NOT correct! Season 1 has 16 Episodes and it starts with "More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1"!
The rules (that YOU point out) do NOT conflict with the addition of the ACTUAL first 3 Episodes... The air date, order, seasons are 100% supported and confirmed by Hasbro... There is NOTHING wrong here!
Reply by DavidKDean
on April 15, 2024 at 6:08 AM
ACTUALLY! I just found this... The f.h.e 1985 VHS release... This was what aired BEFORE Season 2 started in September 1985!
A list of the episodes in order and their respective volume release.
Volume 12 also contains "The Secret of Omega Supreme" and "War Dawn" which were BOTH from Season 2.
Note: Season 2 wasn't commissioned until 1985... Season 1 concluded on December 29, 1984. Season 1 wasn't known as "Season 1" until years later! So all there was was just "The Transformers". I'm sure they didn't know how the legal battles with HB and Toei was going to go down in regards to GoBots and Mighty Orbots.
Reply by codename_john
on April 15, 2024 at 7:47 AM
This is such a weird hill to die on for @superboy97 . Literally any reference says they are part of season 1 and yet nothing appears to be "proof".
Reply by olevelo
on April 15, 2024 at 8:24 AM
Why are you being so insistent on being wrong? Evidence has been presented, and you just continue to ignore it. The original entries were incorrect, with zero evidence to support them being split, and yet you want evidence to correct it (which has been supplied anyway). Someone with the power needs to fire you because you're the worst at this job ever.