Do you consider Tyler to be a hero and all because some say he represent freedom for every man since he rejects society, he hates consumerism, he feels males are being too feminized and not masculine, he hates political correctness, his "i don't give a fuck attitude", he hates being a slave to work and all plus has high intelligence. Or was he a total psycho who only existed in a faustrated worker's mind?
And do you consider the moral of this movie to be coming of age where the narrator is like a kid who loved his material possessions, when he met Tyler he became a rebellious teen and when he realized he created a monster near the end, he finally outgrow him and learned to grow up to become a mature individual? was that the moral and point of the film? if not, what is the moral?
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Antwort von Renovatio
am 20. April 2017 um 10:22
i thought the film was about one man discovering and exploring his potential homosexuality... the whole underground fight scene and secret society was an allegory to cruising for male lovers... sweaty naked men, etc...
in the end the narrator decides to return to the straight way, (out of fear?) but only having deconstructed his life and his world first...
Antwort von Egon1982
am 20. April 2017 um 10:41
And what do you expect from a gay author who wrote the book?
Antwort von Renovatio
am 20. April 2017 um 10:49
I liked Fight Club, both the film and the book... the transgressive parts were interesting whether you place them in the gay world or if you consider them from an anti-consumerist or anarchist point of view...
I remember coming out of the theatre and turning to my girlfriend to say how great the movie was and wanting to discuss the themes, but she just felt is was too dark of a movie... even though it ended with him manning up and accepting that he needed love and human connection instead of being caught up in either acquiring more material things, or similarly, being obsessed with riling against the system... it was a spiritual awakening, but i think the grimness and anarchy of the rest of the film overshadowed this part...
I read one of Palahniuk's other books, Choke, and didn't like it... Not well written at all and the themes weren't particularly interesting either...
Antwort von chilone
am 14. August 2017 um 12:06
Tyler is a hero but like most, he too is flawed.
Antwort von Drooch
am 14. August 2017 um 20:40
There isn't a 'moral' as such - Fincher's not one to moralise - but there is a takeaway in that Norton gains enlightenment as Tyler liberates him from his bland auto-life. Then it gets interesting, in the same way that revolutionaries often end up becoming dictators, Tyler's liberating ideology becomes oppressive, and Norton must eventually kill his mentor to find balance.
I see it as a warning not to get seduced by an attractive ideology. At certain points in life we need to learn certain things, but no single teacher has all the answers.
Antwort von tmdb43737777
am 14. August 2017 um 21:11
That's what I think. His cult was so branwashed they were willing willing to blow themselves up in order to bring in a new age. I guess being Amish is a goal of you destroy your cities economic power or going to jail for a mentally disabled man who's crazy
Antwort von JustinJackFlash
am 15. August 2017 um 09:51
Nice
Antwort von gspgreases
am 20. August 2017 um 17:20
tyler was far from a hero but he was who the narrator wanted to be.
Antwort von Egon1982
am 18. Mai 2019 um 17:02
Tyler is nothing but a despicable garbage being
Antwort von JustinJackFlash
am 18. Mai 2019 um 17:51
The great thing about Fight Club is that it's about everything! It can mean so many different things and every time I watch it I discover something different or see it in a different way. Very few films can pull off such a plethora of different messages and allegories but Fight Club does it effortlessly.
I can't say I ever saw it as an allegory for homosexuality nor have I ever heard it mentioned in any articles, but having recently discovered that Chuck Palahniuk is gay it does make total sense that this is one of the intended readings.
Antwort von chilone
am 20. Mai 2019 um 11:24
I'd be interested in knowing what movies you like. Fight Club is absolutely brilliant.
Antwort von chilone
am 20. Mai 2019 um 13:04
Ooops! Didn't catch the context. :)
Antwort von Egon1982
am 20. Mai 2019 um 15:08
He's no hero, he's an extremely dangerous lunatic
Antwort von A-Dubya
am 26. Mai 2019 um 18:54
His name is Robert Paulson!
Antwort von JustinJackFlash
am 26. Mai 2019 um 19:15
You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake!