damn you people need to get laid.

@Crisstti said:

@MongoLloyd said:

They've only been exposed to space in low-Earth orbit. No biological terrestrial organism has ever survived exposure to deep space conditions.

Calvin is no terrestrial bilogical organism, though.

But certainly not a biological organism that lives in space. A biological organism is a biological organism.

I'm here very late... I've just watched Life 4K on 65" tv, and it blew me away. I just gave it 9/10.

To OP, we're limited by our rudimentary knowledge. Imagine what our grandparents, and those before them, what they think would survive in sulphuric cave water, in deep terrain with over boiling water temperature, in perma-frozen landscapes. Yet scientists have found lives in them. Sometimes even thriving.

So, we're constantly learning, and that's more possible with our minds open. I'm glad for curious scientists, and not for ppl like u; strongly opinionated & loud.

@EnlightenMe said:

we're limited by our rudimentary knowledge.

No, we're actually not, when it comes to this. You're comparing terrestrial worms and bacteria to a complex, high functioning biological entity capable of living in a deep space vacuum? Now I understand why you were "blown away" by this 4K dreck.

Wrong. Sulphuric water had several fish populating it. It was covered in a David Attenborough doco.

Don't assume too much. Our lil knowledge can be dangerous when matched by over-inflated ego, like yours.

@EnlightenMe said:

Wrong. Sulphuric water had several fish populating it. It was covered in a David Attenborough doco.

Don't assume too much. Our lil knowledge can be dangerous when matched by over-inflated ego, like yours.

And yet "fish" are still terrestrial beings, living with gravity, atmosphere, water, and not sub zero temperatures.

It's been well proven that a biological organism cannot live and survive in deep space. Period.

@MongoLloyd said:

@EnlightenMe said:

Wrong. Sulphuric water had several fish populating it. It was covered in a David Attenborough doco.

Don't assume too much. Our lil knowledge can be dangerous when matched by over-inflated ego, like yours.

And yet "fish" are still terrestrial beings, living with gravity, atmosphere, water, and not sub zero temperatures.

It's been well proven that a biological organism cannot live and survive in deep space. Period.

What about tardigrades?

Still, they can only survive for a short time when exposed to deep space vacuum and temps, while exposed to vacuum and full solar UV radiation, most don't survive. That said, they're still only a few steps up from a single celled organism, so not exactly high functioning.

@MongoLloyd said:

Still, they can only survive for a short time when exposed to deep space vacuum and temps, while exposed to vacuum and full solar UV radiation, most don't survive. That said, they're still only a few steps up from a single celled organism, so not exactly high functioning.

lol gotta love the internet

Great retort, doofus.

Well if you want it spelled out youre clearly embarrassed that you were entirely in error, and your subsequent comment was an attempt to muddy the waters for your pitiable ego's sake. I just think its funny because people would only have the audacity to believe its not completely transparent because its over the internet i.e. noone can look you in your face as you try it. In real life people have too much pride for that kind of nonsense. Mostly.

I have a post further back in this thread which explains why I think Calvin is a scientific impossibility, but what it boils down to for me is that there are no rules. In any good science-fiction/fantasy story requiring the suspension of disbelief, you've still got to have rules to make the story believable within its own universe.

The superhero/bad guy/alien life form (good or bad) can do this but not that; in the speculative world of the story these things can happen, but not those things. With "Life", there is absolutely nothing that Calvin cannot do to survive; all things are possible simply because Calvin is, well, Calvin. And that's why the movie ultimately falls apart for me. The film is fine as a straight-up horror, but a semi-realistic "hard sci-fi" yarn like "2001" or some other such film, it is not.

As for the debate between MongoLloyd and Altaire-- you two need to stop. At this point your arguments are nothing more than one of those classic staring contests on the old IMDB where neither side will admit error. At this juncture it should be obvious that neither one of you is going to convince the other of the merits of your respective arguments, so you both should just stop.

But go ahead, you two, and keep on going if that's your thing; have fun (shrugs shoulders and walks off).

Release the Calvin!!!

@MongoLloyd said:

They've only been exposed to space in low-Earth orbit. No biological terrestrial organism has ever survived exposure to deep space conditions.

Lichens can survive at least 15 days in space.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichen?useskin=vector#:~:text=organism.%5B62%5D-,Response%20to%20environmental%20stress,-Unlike%20simple%20dehydration

The movie also states that it consists of several single-celled organisms that work together. I guess this explains the lower sensitivity or adaptability.