Fletcher as an educator was intense but ultimately an abuser.
He might had wanted something other than a good job but the way he went about it he was not fit to be a teacher.
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Réponse de luthien
le 26 février 2017 à 00h34
The dude was intense. He slapped his student around trying to make a point about the tempo. I wouldn't want him as a teacher.
Réponse de tmdb53400018
le 26 février 2017 à 00h55
He obviously had talent as a musician. But he slapped Miles Teller's character repeatedly and threw something (I think it was a chair?) at him too.
Réponse de luthien
le 26 février 2017 à 01h10
Oh yeah, that's right. Good thing Andrew had quick reflexes. Imagine if he threw a chair to a student who wasn't able to duck in time.
Réponse de chasman99
le 10 mars 2017 à 18h43
He was absolutely abusive, and that wouldn't be allowed at a professional institution. But it makes for an interesting debate, because it was that intense mistreatment that ultimately transformed Teller
Réponse de Renovatio
le 26 mars 2017 à 10h29
this is interesting... Teller's character seemed pretty driven from the beginning, even to the extent of slightly alienating the pretty girl he was interested in...
I wonder how much internal vs. external intensity matters more in these situations...
Réponse de lmao7
le 27 mars 2017 à 05h45
Even after being abused by Fletcher, it was like Neimann still wanted approval from him.
Réponse de cpheonix
le 27 juin 2017 à 10h32
This was kind of one of reasons why I didn't enjoy the movie as much as I wanted to. It was borderline fantasy in how a teacher could get away with such abuse, both physically and verbally. If it was set maybe 20-30 years ago it could be believable, but in this day and age he would no way be able to get away with the stuff he did.
I really don't believe such high intense pressure (as shown in the film) could transform anyone except put them off altogether or drive them to suicide (as it did with one student)
Réponse de Renovatio
le 27 juin 2017 à 17h07
Stockholm syndrome?
Réponse de tmdb72563708
le 22 juillet 2017 à 14h37
I'm so glad this wasn't a true story for so many reasons. I would have given up drums very quickly if I had experienced the likes of Fletcher.
Réponse de intothenightalone
le 31 août 2017 à 06h28
It was a little too intense, especially things like him bleeding all over the kit
Réponse de Fergoose
le 29 novembre 2021 à 14h47
Yes, it was over the top given the setting and the time, but thought provoking nonetheless. I think a small fraction of people do need a Fletcher type to get the best out of them. A fear of humiliation combined with "I'll prove him wrong" mindset amongst the students.
Ultimately, the Fletchers of this world will end up alienating and chasing away more talent than he would develop. I doubt any of the greatest minds in human history pushed the boundaries of human knowledge by being bullied into it. They just had an inner drive (and a whole lot of natural ability of course).
Plus, as the film depicts, bullies like Fletcher may contribute to mental health issues. Looking back I actually thought he was emotional on hearing about the suicide because his greatest protege had died before attaining fame (rather than any concern for the kid). That simply added to the complexity of the character as somewhere between a well meaning bully, or an undiluted scumbag.
I haven't seen Simmons in any films prior to this, but used to watch him in Oz, which in some ways took away from his performance for me. I think intimidating malevolence is his comfort zone. :p