Somewhere in or around the ending credits of X-Men: The Last Stand, either Jean or Moira is shown standing over a man in a bed who says, "Hello" to her, I think (I strongly dislike the film, so I am shaky about the details). I read that it was explained in the film's bonus features that Charles implanted his mind into this man's body, in a nutshell, and that's him speaking to her.

I'm not sure how this man looks exactly like Charles, but anyway, there's your explanation.

Yeah on each movie they are breaking more stuff :/

I searched for it and some say he had a twin brother that was kept in coma ever since birth for all these decades and he moved his mind to that body. Others say that some unknown mutant built a new body for him, just didn't explain why this new body is paraplegic too.

So, basically, now they can just kill anybody for the emotional impact of it, then just bring the character back so they don't lose him and his fans.

@mechajutaro said:

@HikariWS said:

Xavier was killed by Jean on a movie, if I remember it right on X-Men (2006) The Last Stand. On the end of The Wolverine (2013) it's shown him alive, but it's left open how that can be.

Now he just shows up as if nothing had happened. Has it even been explained on some movie?

As Keith Giffen has pointed out several times, continuity is overrated. Well-crafted stories have to stand on their own

I would agree to an extent. But the Xavier thing is a biggie. Yet Days of Future Past is a well crafted story so I do kind of just go with it.

My issue with ressurecting a character is that they kill him to have a huge emotional impact, and we expect the odds of not having him anymore. If on the next movie he's just back, then all the impact was a fake. It's even worse when they don't even bother making an excuse for it.

So, basically, he can die anytime and just be back later. It's not like Wolverine, which is alrdy odd. If there's an unnamed mutant capable of creating new bodies, then everybody is immortal now. If it only works for Xavier, then how and when did he transfer his mind to the other body? For sure he didn't have the chance while fighting Jean.

It could be acceptable if in example he was able to backup his mind somewhere and then it's restored to another. But yet, he'd be immortal, so he can do whatever he wants and risk himself freely.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the villain character of Onslaught made from Professor Xavier's consciousness?

@HikariWS said:

My issue with ressurecting a character is that they kill him to have a huge emotional impact, and we expect the odds of not having him anymore. If on the next movie he's just back, then all the impact was a fake. It's even worse when they don't even bother making an excuse for it.

So, basically, he can die anytime and just be back later. It's not like Wolverine, which is alrdy odd. If there's an unnamed mutant capable of creating new bodies, then everybody is immortal now. If it only works for Xavier, then how and when did he transfer his mind to the other body? For sure he didn't have the chance while fighting Jean.

It could be acceptable if in example he was able to backup his mind somewhere and then it's restored to another. But yet, he'd be immortal, so he can do whatever he wants and risk himself freely.

Maybe I am wrong, but I thought that Jean had Xavier levitating in the air before her, and he had time to say something to her like, "Control the power, don't let it control you," before his body was destroyed. He's a very powerful telepath. He probably had enough time to move his consciousness from one body to another, as he literally wasn't fighting Jean just before his body disappeared.

If you follow Marvel comicbooks, you should know that the characters come back from death pretty frequently. I agree with you that resurrecting Xavier felt like a cheat move, but it's just following suit from the books.

Yeah it took some time, but I mean that he had never done something like that, and also it wasn't hinted it happened. He'd need to discover this power, train it, have some body prepared, etc. Nothing of that was shown. And while he was with Jean, there's also no sign that he believed she'd kill him, he seems to believe in her recovering control and in him being able to persuade her.

I think same happened with Kitty, that had power to pass thru walls and then all of a sudden has power to send ppl back in time. But IDK if it was developed on comics and movies just didn't show it. I don't read comics, if resurrecting ppl on it is common, then even worse.

I know that in last decades in a lot of series they were lacking creativity and started making spin offs and alternate universes so they could "better explore their creativity" without worrying of breaking coherence with all past decades content.

@HikariWS said:

Yeah it took some time, but I mean that he had never done something like that, and also it wasn't hinted it happened. He'd need to discover this power, train it, have some body prepared, etc. Nothing of that was shown. And while he was with Jean, there's also no sign that he believed she'd kill him, he seems to believe in her recovering control and in him being able to persuade her.

I think same happened with Kitty, that had power to pass thru walls and then all of a sudden has power to send ppl back in time. But IDK if it was developed on comics and movies just didn't show it. I don't read comics, if resurrecting ppl on it is common, then even worse.

I know that in last decades in a lot of series they were lacking creativity and started making spin offs and alternate universes so they could "better explore their creativity" without worrying of breaking coherence with all past decades content.

WOW, it’s hard to believe that this much debating has gone on over a silly-assed comic book movie. Xavier pulled out his ability to make everybody in a crowded room stop moving in the 2nd film, and he is a very savvy leader of the group, and here you are, arguing with me extensively over his surviving Jean’s attack. Well I don’t wish to continue getting into it with you because this is, ultimately, silly shit (in my opinion). And plus, it’s tiring doing this on my smartphone.

Well should I apologize? :-O I'm not forcing u to reply (argue? cmon!). I'm talking publicly, anybody can read and replies whoever wants. Should I stop talking on a thread I myself created, because u came to the thread even thou don't wanna talk about it?

My point is that it is silly. Well, it's fiction, all their powers are impossible under basic physics principles. If I'd go in this path, I can add to it that the movies serie explains their powers from some unobscured genetic mutation. What gen would make anybody develop powers that are impossible to exist? What protein would make them happen?

@HikariWS said:

Well should I apologize? :-O I'm not forcing u to reply (argue? cmon!). I'm talking publicly, anybody can read and replies whoever wants. Should I stop talking on a thread I myself created, because u came to the thread even thou don't wanna talk about it?

My point is that it is silly. Well, it's fiction, all their powers are impossible under basic physics principles. If I'd go in this path, I can add to it that the movies serie explains their powers from some unobscured genetic mutation. What gen would make anybody develop powers that are impossible to exist? What protein would make them happen?

I didn't ask you nor do I want you to apologize, Hikari. You just debated so adamantly and extensively about how Xavier couldn't survive his student’s attack that it came off as ridiculous to me. On one hand, it feels like you're trying to think for others, and on another it seems like you just aren't paying attention. It was clearly "hinted" that Xavier's survival "happened," during the ending credits of the corny movie.

Why don't you say what's really on your mind, hmm?

Well, I said what was in my mind. What do u think I'm thinking and not saying, and why I'm not saying it? I don't get it.

I came to the forum to talk about the oddities on the movie I watched. It's that, IDK what's wrong with it, what else could there be, and why it's annoying u. I agree that the mess they created is ridiculous, and I'm not spending more time than I believe the matter deserves. When it does, I just stop following the thread.

I alrdy said why it annoyed me: the death of a character on an episodic series creates emotional commotion, which is positive for producers, and creates a negative effect, which is the character not being available anymore. When they take their positive factors and remove the negative effect, it's lame. In this case, they didn't even bother to explain what and how it happened.

Well, after this they made only 2 more movies and now stopped it, so it seems they felt the mess they were making and it's better to stop. Until they reboot it all :p

@HikariWS said:

Well, I said what was in my mind. What do u think I'm thinking and not saying, and why I'm not saying it? I don't get it.

I came to the forum to talk about the oddities on the movie I watched. It's that, IDK what's wrong with it, what else could there be, and why it's annoying u. I agree that the mess they created is ridiculous, and I'm not spending more time than I believe the matter deserves. When it does, I just stop following the thread.

I alrdy said why it annoyed me: the death of a character on an episodic series creates emotional commotion, which is positive for producers, and creates a negative effect, which is the character not being available anymore. When they take their positive factors and remove the negative effect, it's lame. In this case, they didn't even bother to explain what and how it happened.

Well, after this they made only 2 more movies and now stopped it, so it seems they felt the mess they were making and it's better to stop. Until they reboot it all :p

I’m just incredulous that X-Men: The Last Stand warrants this much back-and-forth.

It doesn’t take rocket science to see that Xavier may have had more abilities than what you saw in the first film - they unveiled his ability to “freeze” everyone in a room in X2, so why couldn’t there be more where that came from? And as I repeatedly alluded to, this guy who was supposed to be Charles Xavier’s brother was used as a surrogate body for the professor after he was killed. Still, you argued - oops, excuse me, debated on and on and on.

Was there any precedent on the comics that he has such ability, or some brother?

Looking at Xavier's personality, it's very clear he believes that harmful powers should be constrained. He's able to control ppl actions and even change their opinions and desires and still he doesn't do it or at least avoids doing so because he believes ppl should have their rights respected. So yeah he could have some powers he keeps hidden, which he could use on extreme situations. Which I don't see being one when he went to help Jean.

@HikariWS said:

Was there any precedent on the comics that he has such ability, or some brother?

Looking at Xavier's personality, it's very clear he believes that harmful powers should be constrained. He's able to control ppl actions and even change their opinions and desires and still he doesn't do it or at least avoids doing so because he believes ppl should have their rights respected. So yeah he could have some powers he keeps hidden, which he could use on extreme situations. Which I don't see being one when he went to help Jean.

I believe there was some precedent for that in the comic books.

I'm stating that I dislike this line of questioning. If you continue it, you might not get a response from me.

I had started days ago to state that u're trolling here, demanding that I stop talking on the thread I myself created, and now going to the point to claim that I want and care for your replies!