Discuss Oppenheimer

Well-crafted, it holds your attention, an all-star cast, an effective film. But, ultimately, while previous efforts may not have primarily focused on Oppenheimer, movies about the Manhattan Project-- which this film ultimately is --have been done before. There really isn't a whole lot new here, and I was surprised, at the film's conclusion, despite all of the considerable skill behind this film, that for me at least, I would probably only rate it a 6 out of 10.

One of my favorite people to read on the TMDB discussion boards, whose moniker rhymes with DVD and who has an obsession with Musing with numbers [ ;) ], has previously stated that he doesn't think he'd like this movie because it would be too "pro-Bomb", with all the attendant 'Murica! 'Murica! 'Murica! rah-rah-rahing.

Well, like him perhaps, I was looking for a film that was a bit more nuanced; sadly, this film ain't that. There is a lot of fun, excited music as we see scientists, led by Oppenheimer, busily scribbling notations as they get ever closer to developing a weapon. When it finally happens, everyone is ultimately ecstatic, complete with (literal!) flag-waving. The film does delve into, somewhat, Oppenheimer's misgivings about the Bomb, but he ultimately supports it, and at the very end of the film, when he seems to condemn himself for what he has done, it seems more tacked-on by the director, Christopher Nolan, to absolve himself from any accusations that the film is one-sided.

From a technical standpoint, the film is brilliant. An accomplished filmmaker like Nolan clearly knows his way around a camera, and how to get the best from his actors. Some will probably not like the film simply because it is extremely "talky"; there is very little in the way of action. You have to really not mind that if you are going to sit through a three-hour film. In my case, it held my interest.

I must remark on Florence Pugh's performance in this film, as the ill-fated mistress of J. Robert Oppenheimer, Jean Tatlock. I have said before, when I first saw her in 2016's Lady Macbeth, that she had all the makings of a new Kate Winslet: not only physically attractive, she is a capable actor, and is not afraid-- like Winslet --to take both large and small roles. Pugh's scenes in Oppenheimer, already oft-remarked upon in the media, are excellent. Her nudity is effective but not gratuitous.

!!! SPOILER !!!

The scene where Oppenheimer's wife, Kitty-- played by the fantastic Emily Blunt --is imagining a nude Tatlock having sex with her husband (Cillian Murphy is also nude in this scene) while he testifies about his affair with Tatlock to a room full of men, while the imaginary Tatlock STARES RIGHT AT KITTY, WITH A GRIN ON HER FACE (!!!), is one of the most cutting scenes in the entire film.

There have been many, many films throughout the years where male characters have bragged about bagging another man's wife or girlfriend, but rarely do we see such devastating scenes in film between two women. Florence Pugh is BRUTAL in her performance, and we equally feel the pain of Blunt's character. Two actresses at the top of their game.

Oppenheimer:

Superior filmmaking, but the story has been done before, and the great moral dilemma of using the Bomb is not gone into in any significant way.

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Thanks for that helpful review, nc! I've been waiting for either you or DRD to post a review to confirm my misgivings, and you hit on it. At first I was thrilled that an American filmmaker would finally tackle the divisive topic of the bomb and the incineration of peaceful civilians for political/egotistical gain. But apparently it's still "too soon" for a true examination, because apparently this film turns Oppenheimer into a hero with Nolan's contrived bit about him opposing the bomb at the end. The real Oppenheimer was an arrogant b*tard like all military-funded scientists, and he was always in favor of cooking the Japanese, even after the fact. He just didn't want any other countries to cook Americans.

Anyway, thanks for saving me the extra dose of blood pressure medication I would've needed if I'd gone to see this myself. As I've said in the other thread, the nuking of Japan is a VERY hot issue with me. I resent any filmmaker using it for a cheap patriotic claptrap, sanitizing the real ugliness and especially turning Dr. Death into a hero.

Kinda ranks up there with the movie "Temple Grandin" (who invented the modern slaughterhouse), a movie that tries hard to portray her as an animal rights activist trying to save cows from unnecessary suffering, when in real life she was a borderline psycho who was morbidly obsessed with inventing efficient ways of killing. I'll throw Oppenheimer in the same pile as that one, another wtf example of Hollywood's twisted social morality plays.

For me it's just another proof that Nolan maybe knows how to direct, how to place a camera, how to build a scene, but eventually his scripts are just hollow and shallow that mostly adult teenagers will find interesting. And that extra hype from clueless people that think his movies are masterpieces are only making it worse and frankly devaluate truly great movies.

His movies are technically ok, not bad, but I don't think he is anywhere close to the visual imagination of someone like Alfonso Cuaron, for example, or to the masterclass storyteller like Guillermo del Toro, to the true cinematic genius of Martin Scorsese, or even to the great entertainers like James Cameron or Spielberg. Nolan is maybe better than standard Hollywood directors like Justin Lin, but he is definitely not on the same par with truly great directors. He is a B class, and always will be.

Oppenheimer was released with Barbie, I think both movies have pretty much the same audience.

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