Discuss 22 July

I didn't like how the movie portrayed the terrorist and far right ideas. The movie is showing what they believe and want, this makes more ppl know about them and accept their ideas. They went to the point of his mother saying he was right. The only moment they show he failed was in the end, on how he was caught and will remain in prison. But even so, it shows he failed only because he was arrested, and not how wrong and harmful his ideas are.

But for this one far right member that had failed, there are thousands who never go to jail and for decades keep constantly expressing and living their hate and discrimination, specially anonymously on the web.

At some places, where democracy is weak or nonexistent, they even reach political posts, where their hate and delusions are extremely harmful. In Brasil in example we have one as president, who had put hundreds of people like him on many government offices where they destroyed our education system and science production, hunted and led to depression thousands of public servicers, and led a genocide of hundreds of thousands of people during covid 19 pandemic, as he made millions believe the virus doesn't even exist and that ppl shouldn't vaccinate.

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I think we all know this, but the film is based on real life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

@HikariWS said:

I didn't like how the movie portrayed the terrorist and far right ideas. The movie is showing what they believe and want, this makes more ppl know about them and accept their ideas. They went to the point of his mother saying he was right. The only moment they show he failed was in the end, on how he was caught and will remain in prison. But even so, it shows he failed only because he was arrested, and not how wrong and harmful his ideas are.

I thought the film also did a good of showing how socially isolating his views/actions really were. He kept saying , "I am the first wave of many..." and making threats, but none of them came to fruition. That is to say, the filmmakers did a good job of showing social/psychological isolation.

@HikariWS said:

But for this one far right member that had failed, there are thousands who never go to jail and for decades keep constantly expressing and living their hate and discrimination, specially anonymously on the web.

(In many [free] countries) Having bad thoughts or ideas is a human right, acting them out through violence is not. There is a difference philosophically and societally.

@HikariWS said:

At some places, where democracy is weak or nonexistent, they even reach political posts, where their hate and delusions are extremely harmful. In Brasil in example we have one as president, who had put hundreds of people like him on many government offices where they destroyed our education system and science production, hunted and led to depression thousands of public servicers, and led a genocide of hundreds of thousands of people during covid 19 pandemic, as he made millions believe the virus doesn't even exist and that ppl shouldn't vaccinate.

The planet is a big place. Even countries are big places. To express our own experiences and ideas as if they are universally normative is a dangerous game. Not everyone thinks like you (or me) nor do they share your (or my) experiences. Humanity is the great experiment with each one playing a part. Thanks for adding to the conversation!

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