@thebarnman said:

I thought the ending was great. I'd like to see a whole movie on how he brings down the whole network.

Did they ever say who this network was? Only that they were powerful people?

I have to say i also enjoyed this Taken on a Non-Stop train. If only the villian wasn't so obvious and they spent more money on the special effects.

Overall its still hard to believe Liam Neeson is over 60 and still doing these films!

@cpheonix said:

@thebarnman said:

I thought the ending was great. I'd like to see a whole movie on how he brings down the whole network.

Did they ever say who this network was? Only that they were powerful people?

I have to say i also enjoyed this Taken on a Non-Stop train. If only the villian wasn't so obvious and they spent more money on the special effects.

Overall its still hard to believe Liam Neeson is over 60 and still doing these films!

Meh, age is just a number and you're never too old for anything. Good that you enjoyed the film too, I mean of course it's not as great as Taken 1 or Non-Stop but I liked it more than Taken 2 and 3, and The Grey, those films of which I did thought were disappointing. In my book I rate this film an 8 out of 10.

As for your question, I have no idea myself.

@cpheonix said:

Did they ever say who this network was? Only that they were powerful people?

Not that I can recall. Though I thought it was interesting at the end when Neeson showed his badge and was ready to make an arrest. I could only imagine through her; he would find out who those people are...no matter the cost.

@thebarnman said:

@cpheonix said:

Did they ever say who this network was? Only that they were powerful people?

Not that I can recall. Though I thought it was interesting at the end when Neeson showed his badge and was ready to make an arrest. I could only imagine through her; he would find out who those people are...no matter the cost.

Yeah, maybe in a sequel (The commuter returns?) where its on a plane...oh wait, that's Non-Stop ;)

The problem with this powerful network is that it can't be that powerful if they hadn't killed Neeson between the end of the siege and to when he arrests Vera Famiga. Unless all those involved were already taken down thanks to the witness and she was the only one left?

@Rocketeer Raccoon said:

@Horus Mazinga said:

@Rocketeer Raccoon said:

Well Bryan Cranston's role in G2014 was completely wasted and he was the best actor in the entire movie yet he was killed off too soon. What I really hated about G2014 for the most part is that it turns into a military movie where Godzilla is more like a support character rather than being the main star and Godzilla himself only appears for about 8 minutes in total while you see the Muto far more than him. Oh and when you see Godzilla face off against the Muto for the first time, you think your going to see a fight but then in the point of view of the people, the doors close up and you don't get to see that particular part of the fight...

In comparison to Kong: Skull Island, I thought that was a much better film, King Kong had much better screen time and you see all the monster fights. Hopefully they will get this right with the next Godzilla film which will have Mothra and King Ghidorah, and then the film after that is Godzilla against King Kong.

I've never watched any of the Japanese Godzilla films, having to read through subtitles is a bit of a turn off though.

I don't have too much of a problem with Godzilla not being the "star" in modern US renditions but you have a point about Cranston's early exit. I am OK with the method of buildup in the film. I know people who have your exact complaint and I get it.

Skull Island was certainly a better movie in most ways. It does give one hope for the future quality of their efforts.

@Dawn of the Ed is right; Shin Godzilla is very good (but I have some issues with it like the lame laser tail)

Glad someone agrees about my issue with the early exit of Bryan Cranston in that film, I absolutely love Breaking Bad, if they really wanted to kill him off then they could have just kept him until the finale of the movie like doing a heroic sacrifice.

Anyway, I do find it silly that this thread that's meant for the Commuter has been hijacked into a Godzilla thread, just imagine Taken meets Godzilla, the story goes is that MechaGodzilla has kidnapped Godzilla's son Minilla and he's being held captive on another planet by the aliens responsible for creating MechaGodzilla and Godzilla needs to travel in space to rescue Minilla but Godzilla has to fight MechaGodzilla.

Can Liam Neeson play Godzilla?

@JustinJackFlash said:

@Rocketeer Raccoon said:

@Horus Mazinga said:

@Rocketeer Raccoon said:

Well Bryan Cranston's role in G2014 was completely wasted and he was the best actor in the entire movie yet he was killed off too soon. What I really hated about G2014 for the most part is that it turns into a military movie where Godzilla is more like a support character rather than being the main star and Godzilla himself only appears for about 8 minutes in total while you see the Muto far more than him. Oh and when you see Godzilla face off against the Muto for the first time, you think your going to see a fight but then in the point of view of the people, the doors close up and you don't get to see that particular part of the fight...

In comparison to Kong: Skull Island, I thought that was a much better film, King Kong had much better screen time and you see all the monster fights. Hopefully they will get this right with the next Godzilla film which will have Mothra and King Ghidorah, and then the film after that is Godzilla against King Kong.

I've never watched any of the Japanese Godzilla films, having to read through subtitles is a bit of a turn off though.

I don't have too much of a problem with Godzilla not being the "star" in modern US renditions but you have a point about Cranston's early exit. I am OK with the method of buildup in the film. I know people who have your exact complaint and I get it.

Skull Island was certainly a better movie in most ways. It does give one hope for the future quality of their efforts.

@Dawn of the Ed is right; Shin Godzilla is very good (but I have some issues with it like the lame laser tail)

Glad someone agrees about my issue with the early exit of Bryan Cranston in that film, I absolutely love Breaking Bad, if they really wanted to kill him off then they could have just kept him until the finale of the movie like doing a heroic sacrifice.

Anyway, I do find it silly that this thread that's meant for the Commuter has been hijacked into a Godzilla thread, just imagine Taken meets Godzilla, the story goes is that MechaGodzilla has kidnapped Godzilla's son Minilla and he's being held captive on another planet by the aliens responsible for creating MechaGodzilla and Godzilla needs to travel in space to rescue Minilla but Godzilla has to fight MechaGodzilla.

Can Liam Neeson play Godzilla?

Would be cool if he were in Godzilla, not as Godzilla but playing a normal Human character, they might as well since they killed off Bryan Cranston and they've got no big named star in the films.

Why would Liam Neeson want to be in a Godzilla movie, or why would someone want to cast Liam Neeson for a Godzilla movie? Maybe he's a bit too typecast, but I can't imagine him in a picture like that. Maybe he ought to turn to comedy, Leslie Nielsen did.

@thebarnman said:

Why would Liam Neeson want to be in a Godzilla movie, or why would someone want to cast Liam Neeson for a Godzilla movie? Maybe he's a bit too typecast, but I can't imagine him in a picture like that. Maybe he ought to turn to comedy, Leslie Nielsen did.

Nah, Liam Neeson is cool as an action star. Well the problem with the newer Godzilla films come is that there's no actual famous faces in it, like I have no idea who will be in the next Godzilla film.

@thebarnman said:

Why would Liam Neeson want to be in a Godzilla movie, or why would someone want to cast Liam Neeson for a Godzilla movie? Maybe he's a bit too typecast, but I can't imagine him in a picture like that. Maybe he ought to turn to comedy, Leslie Nielsen did.

Picture it, you have Godzilla's body with a giant Liam Neeson head superimposed on top of it. MechaGodzilla would shit himself instantly. Especially when he tells Mecha about his certain set of skills and proceeds to Neeson-Fu him into all the buildings.

@Rocketeer Raccoon said

That makes no sense, how can you enjoy it but hated it?

I've made a list called "Bad Movies I Like".

@mason said:

I don't even need the trailer to be sick. The poster alone tells me everything.. Hollywood get's worse and worse. They do everything for a fast buck. Or is it me? I miss the golden age of cinema, nowadays you have to go way off track to find something original or at least mildly interesting.

To be fair, Hollywood has always relied on formulaic stories. Part of the problem today is that there are no 'B movies' where people can learn their craft. And outside of indy or art house films producers want predictable profits. So lots of re-makes and things we've seen over and over.

But the problem with this film is even more basic. It feels like a film studies class was given an assignment to produce a film the followed a brief: It must be primarily set in an enclosed space. The protagonist must race against time or face a life and death threat to those they love. It must have several twists. It must have a collection of disparate characters. It must have several highly dramatic action scenes. It must overtly or subtly reference other films. (And boy, isn't the Spartacus reference cringeworthy.) And on and on.

So film students then watch a series of movies, probably watching Speed more than a few times, and then hand in this nonsense.

Fair cop to Neeson and the rest of the cast tho. It must have been excruciating working with this material. Credit to them for making the best of it.

@Jacinto Cupboard said:

To be fair, Hollywood has always relied on formulaic stories.

I thought "Licorice Pizza" (2021) was pretty original in some ways. Though if you break it down, I'm sure you can find another movie that's quite like it.

@thebarnman said:

@Jacinto Cupboard said:

To be fair, Hollywood has always relied on formulaic stories.

I thought "Licorice Pizza" (2021) was pretty original in some ways. Though if you break it down, I'm sure you can find another movie that's quite like it.

I haven't seen it yet. But if the story outlines I've seen are reliable there isn't really much of a story there at all.

Imo, PTA does a sort of cinematic equivalent of ambient music. It's all about atmosphere and evocation. A sort of fernweh, nostalgia for a place one has never been.

@Jacinto Cupboard said:

@thebarnman said:

@Jacinto Cupboard said:

To be fair, Hollywood has always relied on formulaic stories.

I thought "Licorice Pizza" (2021) was pretty original in some ways. Though if you break it down, I'm sure you can find another movie that's quite like it.

I haven't seen it yet. But if the story outlines I've seen are reliable there isn't really much of a story there at all.

Imo, PTA does a sort of cinematic equivalent of ambient music. It's all about atmosphere and evocation. A sort of fernweh, nostalgia for a place one has never been.

You could say the very same thing about "Once Upon a Time In Hollywood" (2019) as it's just following the lives of a couple people and nothing really happens in the movie...that is till the very end.

I did give some though to Tarantino and Once Upon a Time since it covers some of the same territory. I think the difference is that Tarantino in most of his stuff tells a lot of small stories that often interlock, and it is how they come together that gives the broader narrative. Summarising a Tarantino story is usually difficult as a consequence. The 'scenes' in PTA movies strike me as tonal colour. There Will Be Blood can be reduced to memes and quotes. I honestly can't tell you what the actual story is beyond a man going bonkers and stealing oil. And Phantom Thread: its lovely to look at and has some fine acting but does anyone know what is happening? I don't.

I say this as someone who has enjoyed much of PTA's work. I'm the only person I know who gave Inherent Vice a pass mark. But I challenge anyone to tell me what it was about.