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what happened to the ink stone int he end? and how long they have been divorced?
posted by MarkoffSTAFFMOD on May 1, 2017 at 4:53 PM
Did he pawn it for 300K or did he kept it? It train later it seemed he kept it. I hoped if he pawned it he would give alimony money immediately to wife, but he didn't, so now I am not sure if he is going to gamble money he got for it or he didn't pawn it at all.
she mentioned in next month he will need to pay 150K instead of 100K, so it seem they are divorced only 2 months, right? then I can really understand his position, that he is still not giving up so early after divorce, shame they didn't mention it anywhere in beginning and left me hanging not knowing how long they are separated. in this context she really seem to be rushing, already in relationship 2 months after divorce
btw. I still prefer Still Walking from same director, but after seeing three of his movies I am sure going to look for others, he makes nice civil movies about relationships which are resonating with me, though I least liked Like father like son
Reply by Fergoose
on April 17, 2020 at 6:02 PM
I don't know about the inkstone, he was a bum so even if he'd sold it he might have kept the money for gambling. As for the divorce, its unclear how long it would have been, because maybe he did pay child care for some of the months and was only a couple of months behind. They were probably seperated for quite a while before the divorce came through, so maybe that is a factor in people telling him to move on. A divorce pretty final and irreversible.
Agree the director is consistently very good (although Like Father, Like Son is my favourite and one of the finest films I have seen in many years). I suspect our enjoyment of his films depends on how much you can personally relate to the particular story.
This was pretty darn strong. 7/10
Reply by Markoff
on April 18, 2020 at 12:49 AM
good point he curious be just behind and paid earlier
already saw almost all his movies since then, still think these three are the best fourth would be maybe about those two separated brothers children
do you know other director with similar movies?
Reply by Fergoose
on April 18, 2020 at 7:35 AM
In terms of the combination of realism and social/family focus I'd suggest the following.
Andrey Zvyagintsev - Loveless Ken Loach - Sweet Sixteen, Kes Cristian Mungiu - Graduation, Beyond the Hills
Then random film suggestions:
Rams (Icelandic), Wadjda (Saudi), Like Someone in Love (Japanese), Manchester by the Sea (US)
Also maybe Hana-Bi / Fireworks by Takeshi Kitano, which is a bit different but is outstanding.
As ever with recommendations, watch at your own risk!
Reply by Jacinto Cupboard
on December 26, 2020 at 5:44 AM
I don't think it matters what he did with the money or if he even took it. What he got was acknowledgement that his father was proud of him, and, as a lesson to him, that his father didn't compromise on the thing he himself excelled at: calligraphy. For all the father's gambling and scrounging, he held on to the ink stone, the value of which must surely have been known to him, because it formed part of his sense of self.
Shinoda never quite accepted what he was or what had happened to him. The realisation that his father's 'treasure' was not just property, but a part of himself, is a pivotal moment for him to move forward.
As for the time frame of the divorce, I don't think it is specified. But all that really matters is that however long it was, it is the point where Shinoda moves from regret to acceptance. In real life there is no magic magic number where that happens, so the time frame here doesn't really matter. It's the moment that matters.