@domremy said:

@Badlands1 said:

[@Stormy86] Do you take away someones's existence on Earth, and the time you would share with them just because one day they will feel pain, etc.?

It's not one day of pain, it's months of pain, suffering, chemotherapy, radiation, etc. Then eventual choking and suffocation, no parent would subject their child to that. I guess you're not a parent. That ruined the movie for me to, oh it won't win the Oscar anyways.

Humans will always believe that they can change the future. If she decided to tell her husband that in the future the child will die from cancer I am sure they would try to change the future so it wouldn't happen. Maybe conceive at a different time, use artificial insemination etc. Maybe it isn't possible to change the future. That is one of the themes of the movie. The other is working together so find a solution instead of all the division that exists in the world.

The aliens and their 3000 year problem isn't actually important and you shouldn't get hung up on this. Maybe you could watch Independence Day because that has a "proper" ending.

Excellent points you make. Totally agree.

@domremy said:

The aliens and their 3000 year problem isn't actually important and you shouldn't get hung up on this. Maybe you could watch Independence Day because that has a "proper" ending.

Haha nice Independence Day insult, that movie was a cheesy action flick. I have a list of my fav sci-fis and ID isn't on there. But at least we both agree Arrival had no proper ending.

@Badlands1 said:

@domremy said:

The aliens and their 3000 year problem isn't actually important and you shouldn't get hung up on this. Maybe you could watch Independence Day because that has a "proper" ending.

Haha nice Independence Day insult, that movie was a cheesy action flick. I have a list of my fav sci-fis and ID isn't on there. But at least we both agree Arrival had no proper ending.

What are your favorite sci-fis?

@Stormy86 said:

@Badlands1 said:

@domremy said:

The aliens and their 3000 year problem isn't actually important and you shouldn't get hung up on this. Maybe you could watch Independence Day because that has a "proper" ending.

Haha nice Independence Day insult, that movie was a cheesy action flick. I have a list of my fav sci-fis and ID isn't on there. But at least we both agree Arrival had no proper ending.

What are your favorite sci-fis?

Oh sorry I tried to elude to my lists on my channel. I have a "fav sci-fi/cyberpunk" list... but in all fairness it's apples and oranges, Arrival isn't a sci-if it's a mystery drama about a women's life. I love dramas just not Arrival. Tmdb should feature the lists better like IMDb. So what are your fav films or sci-fis? Perhaps make a list I'd love to see...

@Badlands1 said:

@Stormy86 said:

@Badlands1 said:

@domremy said:

The aliens and their 3000 year problem isn't actually important and you shouldn't get hung up on this. Maybe you could watch Independence Day because that has a "proper" ending.

Haha nice Independence Day insult, that movie was a cheesy action flick. I have a list of my fav sci-fis and ID isn't on there. But at least we both agree Arrival had no proper ending.

What are your favorite sci-fis?

Oh sorry I tried to elude to my lists on my channel. I have a "fav sci-fi/cyberpunk" list... but in all fairness it's apples and oranges, Arrival isn't a sci-if it's a mystery drama about a women's life. I love dramas just not Arrival. Tmdb should feature the lists better like IMDb. So what are your fav films or sci-fis? Perhaps make a list I'd love to see...

I should have known you already had some lists posted. You definitely have some great ones in there. I'll have to compose a few lists of my own to post, but looking at your sci-fi/cyberpunk list, i definitely know that 2001: a space odyssey, The Fly (1958 and 1986 versions), Alien, The Thing, The Terminator, Metropolis, and Invasion of the Body Snatchers would make it on my list. Probably a few others as well.

@Stormy86 said:

@Badlands1 said:

@Stormy86 said: I should have known you already had some lists posted. You definitely have some great ones in there. I'll have to compose a few lists of my own to post, but looking at your sci-fi/cyberpunk list, i definitely know that 2001: a space odyssey, The Fly (1958 and 1986 versions), Alien, The Thing, The Terminator, Metropolis, and Invasion of the Body Snatchers would make it on my list. Probably a few others as well.

Yup that's why I laughed at the Independence Day insult towards me. Also it would be nice if you could shrink down your replies deleting the numerous history before, only leaving the last comment, that way the threads read quicker and easier. Tmdb needs to fix that somehow

[@Badlands1 Yup that's why I laughed at the Independence Day insult towards me. Also it would be nice if you could shrink down your replies deleting the numerous history before, only leaving the last comment, that way the threads read quicker and easier. Tmdb needs to fix that somehow

Sorry about that. Is that better? Yeah, I never questioned your taste, it was just one movie we have different opinions on. I loved Arrival, but it isn't my favorite sci-fi movie ever, and it's not as heavy on the sci-fi aspect like other sci-fi films. Thinking of more recent ones in the past few years, I was actually more blown away by Interstellar.

@Badlands1 said:

Started out good, but went downhill fast after the alien announces in the fog that he came from the future, that he needs the humans help. For what reason? We are never told, will there be a sequel, nope. Oh course throw in a dying child (typical) and a surprise ending? What sensible person wouldn't figure out who the father would be. Why would she have a child knowing it will die slowly and painfully from cancer. No point to this movie at all.

I suppose making it slow, sad, and with a decent score would appeal to some, me I like a comprehensive movie. If I want emotion, I would watch Manchester by the sea (great movie)

When the sad classical music starts at the start of the film and the camera is slowly zooming in, I made fun of it and started saying something like, "The end times came without warning..." or something, and all my friends burst out laughing. Then 2 seconds later, the lady starts talking exactly the same. If a movie is predictable in the first 5 seconds, that is not a good sign. I thought at that point it would be a crap film, and it was imo, although I actually liked the build up and when they started talking to the aliens and trying to learn the language. But then it all turned to crap by the end, and then ended the way it started with the same cringy cliche.

p.s. Hollywood, as much as I think this is a crazy world, I just don't believe any country would attack aliens like that. Trump might try to fine them for illegal parking, but that's about it.

@Badlands1 said:

Started out good, but went downhill fast after the alien announces in the fog that he came from the future, that he needs the humans help. For what reason? We are never told, will there be a sequel, nope. Oh course throw in a dying child (typical) and a surprise ending? What sensible person wouldn't figure out who the father would be. Why would she have a child knowing it will die slowly and painfully from cancer. No point to this movie at all.

I suppose making it slow, sad, and with a decent score would appeal to some, me I like a comprehensive movie. If I want emotion, I would watch Manchester by the sea (great movie)

It's the best sleeping pill you can buy

It's a very dumb movie. Aliens just stay there doing nothing, a lot of ppl trying to understand what's happening and they never react. Then main character tries to communicate and they magically decide to communicate back. Hadn't anybody try before, rly? And it's made worse with the guy talking about using math to talk to them then made look dumb and discarded, a clear reference to the fact that math is the same in the whole universe therefore it's the best way for alien species to communicate. Looks as if story writer did Letters, hated math and loved all those boring old books at school, and decided to put her loved subject into a movie.

I didn't particularly like this movie but ripping on Independence Day as a means of somehow elevating it seems ridiculous.

If I went out to an expensive, renowned restaurant for a meal and found it to be terrible and said so to the person I was with, if they replied - Well, I guess you'd better stick to McDonald's then! That would be plain daft.

Same logic here.

@HikariWS said:

Looks as if story writer did Letters, hated math and loved all those boring old books at school, and decided to put her loved subject into a movie.

The author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Chiang

That said, I did find the movie a bit dry. It was at least something a different to the standard "first contact" SF story, though.