@Strannger18 said:

It was a big hit and bigger on DVD, meaning it’s grown a fan base post-box office.

Seems like the perfect conditions for a money maker.

A sequel is (apparently) in the works, according to Terry Crews in an interview (https://youtu.be/4zTUGgvqYKQ)

This movie paid $3.06 per budget $1, which is profitable...but below average of $3.93 among the 1,800+ titles in my movie roi database (1926 to present). 2004 wasn't a particularly banner year for movies, yet White Chicks' only managed to muster middle-of-the-pack revenue of $113M.

But, given people's desire to get back out to theatres, and the post-box office fan base you mentioned, they surely expect to make at least that, I'm thinking it'd be good for $4-$6.

That said, I don't see anything in production yet, but let's see if it gets a green light.

@acontributor said:

My point is that that movie wouldn't get made. Just the idea itself is probably offensive to some people though it was not meant to be. No disrespect was intended towards women who come from communities of color, nor twerking which is a legitimate form of dance.

I hear you. I just want to add that two black men playing stereotypical white airheads is not the same as two white men playing stereotypical Black women who twerk they asses - that's a false equivalence that diverts from the true nature of power structure here in the West.

And, although it's difficult in this kind of conversation to "be clear", let me hasten to try; the power dynamic is an important factor, because it informs many different aspects of the matter. Here's a concrete example that should be understandable by those who sincerely want to appreciate the importance of the power dynamic. These days, we've been hearing a lot about the indignities and human atrocities that Indigenous People have experienced in what Canada calls "residential schools" - a system that apparently had a systematic agenda for eradicating Indigenous culture. Children were beaten and, often, left for dead, for speaking their own languages or otherwise expressing their culture. They were not allowed, under threat of violence, to be what they were. But, Indigenous culture has often been appropriated for costume, caricature, sports and entertainment. I've heard an Indigenous person say "If I'm not allowed to be Cree/Ojibwe/Oglala... you are not allowed to pretend to be." And, to whom would they have directed that statement? To people among the power structure that set up the systematic eradication of Indigenous culture. To then dress up as those the system was trying to eradicate is a function of power and privilege - the privilege to be what those who are could not, and the power to know they would not be terrorized for using the culture as entertainment (remember "cowboys and indians"?) while those who were, were being terrorized out of their culture.

So, Indigenous people who today can proudly wear their traditional garb are not in the same boat with white people who put on Indigenous garb as a costume or worse. It is a false equivalence to say "if [a non-Indigenous person, especially a white person] cannot wear Indigenous garb, well, then, an Indigenous person can't either."

Here's a a couple more simpler illustrations (because, again, I'm really trying here):

• you may be able to use an intimate name for your significant other, but if your neighbor across the backyard fence refers to your significant other with your name for them, they would be out of order. It's not about the name, it's about the relationship - you are in a relationship with your significant other that makes an intimate name appropriate - the neighbor, who is not (or, better not be) in a similar intimate relationship with your partner, has no business using the name you use. And if they said "well, if using that name is wrong for me, you can't use it either" would be dismissed as absurd. Right?

• walking through your front door without knocking or ringing the doorbell is fine for you, it's your place. Someone else doing it is trespassing (and could get shot). If that person were to say, "well, if I can't walk in the front door, then you can't either" would, again, be dismissed as absurd. Right?

The point that should hopefully be crystal clear is that it's not so much about the action, but the context of the action, that is a better determinant of how we see a situation.

Recently, in Alberta, there was a situation wherein a fight resulted in someone being shot to death. The police investigated and the situation (to the best of my recall) was that an intruder broke into a house, the owner was home, a struggle ensued in which the intruder struck the homeowner with a baseball bat; in defending himself and his home, the owner shot the intruder, who died. In this situation, there were no charges laid.

Yes, someone was shot to death. No, "shooting someone to death" does not always mean the shooter is guilty of murder - context weighs on the act to determine a fairer assessment of the situation.

Power is a factor in how we assess social interaction, and false equivalences which fail to weight power appropriately do not add constructively to public discourse.

@acontributor said:

I appreciate your post but I don't think that it is a false equivalent at all. However I would say that if you were to do such a movie, it would need to be done tastefully. I know that sounds impossible and I'm sure that no matter what you'd have backlash from people who didn't even bother to see the movie. But I see no reason why you couldn't do something like that with the right consultants to make sure that you were making something that laughs with the black community and not at them.

Fair enough!

@Damienracer said:

@Strannger18 said:

It was a big hit and bigger on DVD, meaning it’s grown a fan base post-box office.

Seems like the perfect conditions for a money maker.

We're living in the age of pussies so I doubt we'll be having black men painted as white airheads again anytime soon.

How misogynistic of you -- using that term as a pejorative like that. I'm really surprised you got away with that on the site, given its rules.

And don't sit there and tell me you didn't know that "p***y" is a slang term for the female genitalia.

@CelluloidFan said:

@Damienracer said:

@Strannger18 said:

It was a big hit and bigger on DVD, meaning it’s grown a fan base post-box office.

Seems like the perfect conditions for a money maker.

We're living in the age of pussies so I doubt we'll be having black men painted as white airheads again anytime soon.

How misogynistic of you -- using that term as a pejorative like that. I'm really surprised you got away with that on the site, given its rules.

It's not going unnoticed. I'm sure you've heard the old saying, "give someone enough rope, they'll eventually hang themselves."

And don't sit there and tell me you didn't know that "p***y" is a slang term for the female genitalia.

Of course, this user - who is determined to be offensive, and hardly misses an opportunity - knows. FWIW, further to the rope thing, this user is one of just a few with the dubious distinction of making my ignore list - as for the others? Most of them have either canceled their TMDb account and moved on, or have had their account terminated by TMDb (neither of which had anything to do with me, just statements of fact) - ultimately, rest assured, one of these two outcomes seem almost inevitable for this user - and I think TMDb will be a little bit better when it does finally happen.

@DRDMovieMusings said:

@CelluloidFan said:

@Damienracer said:

@Strannger18 said:

It was a big hit and bigger on DVD, meaning it’s grown a fan base post-box office.

Seems like the perfect conditions for a money maker.

We're living in the age of pussies so I doubt we'll be having black men painted as white airheads again anytime soon.

How misogynistic of you -- using that term as a pejorative like that. I'm really surprised you got away with that on the site, given its rules.

It's not going unnoticed. I'm sure you've heard the old saying, "give someone enough rope, they'll eventually hang themselves."

And don't sit there and tell me you didn't know that "p***y" is a slang term for the female genitalia.

Of course, this user - who is determined to be offensive, and hardly misses an opportunity - knows. FWIW, further to the rope thing, this user is one of just a few with the dubious distinction of making my ignore list - as for the others? Most of them have either canceled their TMDb account and moved on, or have had their account terminated by TMDb (neither of which had anything to do with me, just statements of fact) - ultimately, rest assured, one of these two outcomes seem almost inevitable for this user - and I think TMDb will be a little bit better when it does finally happen.

Alright, DRD!