Item: Will & Grace
Language: da
Type of Problem: Incorrect_content
Extra Details: This is not a new show, it's a relaunch of this: https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/4454-will-grace
https://www.thetvdb.com/?tab=series&id=71814&lid=7
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0157246/episodes?season=9
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/will_grace/s09/
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Reply by Marr π³π±
on October 9, 2017 at 1:40 PM
The channel lists it as a New show, thus, we list it as a new show. No matter what other databases or "fanbase" thinks. We follow the official source/network/broadcaster.
Reply by thermo6
on October 9, 2017 at 4:41 PM
then what about also updating the "old" show like all other sites do ?
Reply by Marr π³π±
on October 9, 2017 at 4:42 PM
The old show is finished, there's no season 9. There's only the new show, with a season 1.
Reply by thermo6
on October 9, 2017 at 4:55 PM
is there an official take on this matter from themoviedb and not just you ? if yes, where?
If you don't want to add to the "old" show and like NBC, list it as a "new" show, then you must also update the "old" show like NBC to
"Will & Grace: Original" https://www.nbc.com/will-and-grace-original
Reply by Marr π³π±
on October 9, 2017 at 4:57 PM
Yes, it has already been discussed on the mod forums a week ago, you can see that Banana already deleted the season 9 on ... october 4 I think.
That one has been added to alternatives, because you see original titles don't change after the initial run. Just like we don't adopt DVD titles. All title changes go in alternatives.
Reply by thermo6
on October 9, 2017 at 5:05 PM
I can't find any posts with "Will & Grace" https://www.themoviedb.org/talk/search?advanced_search=&query=%22Will+%26+Grace%22+Banana&with_category=&with_status%5B%5D=closed&with_status%5B%5D=open
Reply by Marr π³π±
on October 9, 2017 at 5:11 PM
On the mod forums, they are inaccessable for regular users. It's used by moderators to decide courses of action. Banana posted back then to double check that Will & Grace was a new show, and Travis said yes, and we all agreed.
Reply by thermo6
on October 9, 2017 at 5:17 PM
If an official rule, then why is this not shared to us "regular users" ? e.g. on https://www.themoviedb.org/documentation/editing/television
btw: my official say on the matter, is you guys made the wrong decision, when not allowing the "season 9".
Reply by Marr π³π±
on October 9, 2017 at 5:20 PM
Because, those pages haven't been updated since 2010 or sometimes, when the tv database started out.
As mentioned: there's an contribution bible coming up with almost every single rule and hints we have. We've been working on it since February this year, and Travis is gonna publish it soon. I heard he already heard back from his designer about it. So fingers crossed!
For now, if unsure about an edit, please feel free to ask on the forums. Maybe other regular editors are able to help you out, and sometimes theres a mod around if all else fails :). Also, check the change logs _^
Reply by thermo6
on October 9, 2017 at 5:35 PM
OK then, but please reconsider the official take/rule on things like this by allowing the "season 9"
I know this site will lose users back to e.g. "thetvdb" if to many issues like this, that force people to rename the files before scraping the show (if even that is enough, when the same show have the same name?)
Reply by Marr π³π±
on October 9, 2017 at 5:43 PM
To each their own, I'd say.
You can always use .nfo files. And I don't know how other media systems works, but Plex lets your fix incorrect matches! At every files there's a function tools named like that and you can manually search and select the right title to fetch metadata from.
Reply by thermo6
on October 9, 2017 at 6:22 PM
Problems you (Travis) need to fix because of this old/new show thing:
e.g.
"There were some validation errors
This entry has some validation errors and needs to be fixed before you can make any edits. The validation failed because:
Reply by Marr π³π±
on October 10, 2017 at 12:10 AM
Donβt add freebase. It no longer exist. Also. Adding tvdb and imdb wont help much as their data of season 1 wont match the new show.
But iβve put it through.π
Reply by thermo6
on October 10, 2017 at 11:35 AM
"But iβve put it through." in what/where ?
Reply by Marr π³π±
on October 10, 2017 at 12:29 PM
The mod forums of course. Travis really wont look at Every single report in here. Hes quite Busy working on the website.
Youβre free to contact Him yourself via the contact link Below in the footer on the website.