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BBC keeps cuting important scenes fron Trek shows. I assume its for more comercials. But some of the cuts are important scenes

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That reminds me of when spike tv used to run TNG, they'd advertise certain showings as "uncut" (I think it was their Friday night airings, all other time slots were not uncut). I couldn't figure out what they meant by uncut, my mind went immediately to thinking TNG needing to be censored in some way until I figured out they were doing as you mentioned BBC is doing, editing the show to fit more commercials.

Spend $80 on the complete series dvd box or $100 for the BRD box and you will have all the TNG episodes at your disposal and you can watch them when you want and in what order, and these are the uncut episodes with no commercial breaks .

One thing they can cut is long intro scene.

Having them on DVD or BRD also has the advantage that you can press skip when the intro comes along (which I do a lot with the TNG intro ,with ENT and TOS less)

Don't know what country TC is in but Netflix in Canada has TNG (along with VOY and DS9). IIRC they had TOS as well but for some reason got rid of it.

The Heroes & Icons (H&I) broadcast channel in the US started showing all the Trek series 6 days a week, and initially they announced that TOS was "uncut." But after the first year or so, they no longer say that. On the plus side, they're still - so far, anyway - not nearly as bad as Me TV when it comes to cutting TOS. Considering the episodes ran about 50-51 minutes when originally made, and now a typical "hour" show might be as little as 40 minutes without commercials, you can see how channels like Me TV would end up cutting important stuff. There's just not that much "Fat" in a TOS episode.

Even when H&I was showing TOS uncut, they still had more interruptions than originally planned. The episodes were written, produced, and filmed around a certain number of breaks. Adding more breaks sometimes meant they would interrupt practically mid-sentence. A particularly egregious example is near the end of "Return To Tomorrow" where Kirk says that Spock's consciousness is gone, now they must kill his body, the thing that's using it. Now there's a quick fade to a break that almost cuts off Kirk's last words, and after the break they come back to Uhura screaming. Terrible.

Nex, not all of us can afford those DVD/Bluray sets. If you can, I'm glad. But most of my finances go toward food and shelter.

Don't those recordings only last as long as the DVR does? The next time it craps out or you change service or whatever, they'll be gone.

I put together my own DVR type systems which I've used for years to record TV shows and movies. And since it's not a proprietary format or tied to a certain cable service or whatever, I can do whatever I want with them.

That said, there's also the download option. Especially if you're willing to settle for SD quality, it's easy to figure that they've been broadcast for so long for free, and maybe you've already recorded them before too, also for free, you already have personal-use ownership and no obligation to buy a dvd set. (Or in my case, I also bought the laserdiscs in the past.)

For example:

TOS Season 1: http://rarbg.to/torrent/xksu96a

Season 2: http://rarbg.to/torrent/dfkocqb

Season 3: http://rarbg.to/torrent/nvu94hs

TNG Season 1: http://rarbg.to/torrent/lqnzxg6

Season 2: http://rarbg.to/torrent/wtrum8o

Season 3: http://rarbg.to/torrent/apyb5mv

Season 4: http://rarbg.to/torrent/65bwq3n

Season 5: http://rarbg.to/torrent/8sdelqb

Season 6: http://rarbg.to/torrent/y7ujneg

Season 7: http://rarbg.to/torrent/wvpj2ao

It's best to use a vpn these days, but those are available for free too.

Thanks for the tech lesson, Knix. Much appreciated.

Hi there Jet well I started recording TOS/TNG and ENT with my HDD/dvd recorder back in the days when The SciFi channel was still broadcasted here before it became the abomination that was SyFy .And recorded a vast number on dvd (using the HDD to record the episodes for that week and copying it to DVD ,that was during the period TOS and TNG reruns were broadcasted all night so that were quite a lot of episodes per week as you can imagine)But that suddenly stopped with no other channel broadcasting anything Star Trek so out of pure frustration and when those complete series boxes were at discount prices I took advantage of the situation and for around $ 170 I bought TOS,TNG and ENT over the period of a year.That was a couple years prior to the 50th anniversary so everything was much cheaper then it is now , just like the Star Trek Movies I-X that where available on DVD for around $5 each prior to the release of ST09.

@Jetfire59 said:

Thanks for the tech lesson, Knix. Much appreciated.

I don't know how familiar you are with any of this. Sorry if I'm wrong.

And I assume you haven't done that before, so you'll need a program too. I use Deluge for Windows, but there are many others. For Windows, Macintosh, and even Linux (ptooie!). Even if you have a pretty basic internet speed, anything but dialup, it'll work. It might take a while to get everything, but just be patient and make sure you have enough space for it all. A lot depends on how fast other people are uploading or "seeding," too, and sometimes you might see something "stuck" at 90% or even 99% for days or weeks, before it finally finishes. Recently I had a movie finally finish, I don't remember now which movie it was, that took a total of almost 6 months. But that's pretty rare, and very unlikely for popular series like Trek.

In general too, once you've finished downloading a movie or a show or a season or whatever, it's considered impolite to just "take it and run." The idea is to keep uploading/"seeding" it to others until you've uploaded/"seeded" it at least the same amount you downloaded. What they call a ratio of 1:1. For myself, I keep seeding "forever" stuff that took me the longest to get, usually because other people weren't seeding. I have some videos/movies where my ratio is over 100, and I'm happy about that.

I also use a separate computer for that, partly because I don't want or need everything I do, to go through a vpn. But you really should use a vpn for this. So having that and the torrent program running on a separate system, is just better in several ways. I understand you have budget problems, so if you don't have access to a separate computer I can send you something like the Dell 2550 that I used for that purpose in the past. It's only a dual-p3 1.13ghz but that's actually plenty for the task. When I was using it, the CPU load rarely went over 10%. (I'm using a 2850 for that now, dual p4 Xeon 3.4ghz with six 300gb SCSI drives.)

I bought a DVD recorder years ago, IT works like a old VHS machine. For some reason they are hard to find today. I still use mine to record from Netflix. I can get a dvd from the library for free and record it.

@Raymondoz2007 said:

I bought a DVD recorder years ago, IT works like a old VHS machine. For some reason they are hard to find today. I still use mine to record from Netflix. I can get a dvd from the library for free and record it.

Your DVR must be an older model than mine Ray. I've tried recording NetFlix DVD's many times. About one out of three will record. But most of them flash "You are attempting to record copyrighted material. The recording has been halted". Oddly enough, my old Sony VCR will record most of them as well with no blocker interference. The problem is finding VHS tapes. They are largely considered ancient relics.

@Raymondoz2007 said:

I bought a DVD recorder years ago, IT works like a old VHS machine. For some reason they are hard to find today. I still use mine to record from Netflix. I can get a dvd from the library for free and record it.

Borrowing and copying all the DVDs of TOS and TNG, let alone the other series too - at least for those who want them - would be a good bit of work. Plus I prefer having the digital copies anyway. No discs to load, menus to deal with...

@Jetfire59 said:

@Raymondoz2007 said:

I bought a DVD recorder years ago, IT works like a old VHS machine. For some reason they are hard to find today. I still use mine to record from Netflix. I can get a dvd from the library for free and record it.

Your DVR must be an older model than mine Ray. I've tried recording NetFlix DVD's many times. About one out of three will record. But most of them flash "You are attempting to record copyrighted material. The recording has been halted". Oddly enough, my old Sony VCR will record most of them as well with no blocker interference. The problem is finding VHS tapes. They are largely considered ancient relics.

Years ago, I bought a couple region-free DVD players that removed macrovision copy protection, and also would output NTSC video regardless of the disc format. (On other region-free players, they might play a region 2 disc but would output PAL video which is the format for region 2. And that meant you couldn't record it on a US-market VCR because they would only accept NTSC video input. Other people were willing to spend hundreds of $ more on a multi-format TV or monitor, just so they could watch other-region dvds, but I didn't want that.)

Torrenting eliminates those problems because even if you get a PAL-format video file, computer video players don't care, and if you burn your own discs from it, those programs will convert the video to NTSC if necessary.

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