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I think it's interesting how a few anachronisms pop up in the theme park, showing that the Corporation doesn't care about perfect accuracy. (1) No sign of the racism against African-Americans in the period (something emphasized in another show, TIMELESS) though we see hostilities against "Indians". (2) Some of the music -- a Debussy piece, the "Habanera" from Carmen -- would probably have been unknown in the real Wild West. (3) Delores and other women ride astride their horses, instead of using side-saddles.

Obviously black guests would be put off by reminders of racism, while female guests would be reluctant to ride side-saddle.

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I noticed that whenever the robots did the massacre scene, the composer would set it to an existing peace of music. The first time it was Rolling Stone's "Paint it Black" ( re-orchestrated to make it sound classical), the second time Habanera from Carmen, and the third time sounded like something by Tchaikovsky.

"They do show "Samurai World". How do you know more Asian guests aren't at SW or the other existing parks?"

Quite possible. I hadn't seen Episode 10 when I wrote that comment.

I heard a rumor about a "Midieval World", and that it will look like a parody of "Game of Thrones".

@CharlesTheBold said:

I noticed that whenever the robots did the massacre scene, the composer would set it to an existing peace of music. The first time it was Rolling Stone's "Paint it Black" ( re-orchestrated to make it sound classical), the second time Habanera from Carmen, and the third time sounded like something by Tchaikovsky.

The composer for the original music is Ramin Djwadi, who does Game of Thrones and Pacific Rim. He may have copied Tchaikovsky or re orchestrated it. I'm surprised you didn't pick up the player piano and what it represents. Automatic looms and player pianos can be thought of as analog computers executing a program.

"Automatic looms and player pianos can be thought of as analog computers executing a program"

I realized that.

I've also heard that the "skeleton playing the piano" in the credits sequence was obtained by filming Djwadi playing the main tune, then running his image through CGI.

Asians love Cowboys and the Wild West. Westworld should be crawling with them.

@FatDrunkAndStupid said:

Asians love Cowboys and the Wild West. Westworld should be crawling with them.

You can see them in the background in some scenes.

@CharlesTheBold said:

I think it's interesting how a few anachronisms pop up in the theme park, showing that the Corporation doesn't care about perfect accuracy. (1) No sign of the racism against African-Americans in the period (something emphasized in another show, TIMELESS) though we see hostilities against "Indians". (2) Some of the music -- a Debussy piece, the "Habanera" from Carmen -- would probably have been unknown in the real Wild West. (3) Delores and other women ride astride their horses, instead of using side-saddles.

Obviously black guests would be put off by reminders of racism, while female guests would be reluctant to ride side-saddle.

Perhaps these are simply our own current culturally-desirable anachronisms projected into the dystopian future's past...lest we as viewers get distracted by our own very real failures and miss the greater points the writers are trying to make about human nature and our "inevitable need" for self-discovery. As for the music, my guess is the show makers just thought it was cool.

@Daddie0 said:

@CharlesTheBold said:

I think it's interesting how a few anachronisms pop up in the theme park, showing that the Corporation doesn't care about perfect accuracy. (1) No sign of the racism against African-Americans in the period (something emphasized in another show, TIMELESS) though we see hostilities against "Indians". (2) Some of the music -- a Debussy piece, the "Habanera" from Carmen -- would probably have been unknown in the real Wild West. (3) Delores and other women ride astride their horses, instead of using side-saddles.

Obviously black guests would be put off by reminders of racism, while female guests would be reluctant to ride side-saddle.

Perhaps these are simply our own current culturally-desirable anachronisms projected into the dystopian future's past...lest we as viewers get distracted by our own very real failures and miss the greater points the writers are trying to make about human nature and our "inevitable need" for self-discovery. As for the music, my guess is the show makers just thought it was cool.

As has been pointed out many times, even the Wild West wasn't the Wild West. Movie versions of life back then have always been larger than life theater. This park isn't supposed to be a totally accurate historical recreation. They've thrown in cannibal cults, a nonexistent tribe called The Ghost Nation, and a sort of continuation of the civil war for aficionados of that era. These are fictional places and events patterned after the popular culture image of the old west. It's an amusement park for rich people. Wherever authenticity gets in the way of things being fun they're not. If a little embellishment is more entertaining than reality, they embellish. All in the name of giving the customer the experience they paid for.

It also appears they've been making recordings of guest experiences in the park. For potential leverage maybe? Lots of nefarious stuff going on. Delos is the stereotypical Big Evil Corporation. We've already seen one of their under the table facilities inside the park. I'm guessing there are plenty more secrets left to be exposed this season.

@Invidia said:

On Demand has a S2 Trailer where they explain how they ignored HISTORICAL ACCURACY and used CONTEMPORARY MUSIC on the player piano (like a Radiohead song) because they want people to remember that this isn't a story that's taking place back in the past.

You mean, as a gentle reminder to ground guests like William who might get a little too lost in the story? They certainly don't need to remind viewers. Anyone who watches more than a few minutes at a time (even if they've never seen the show before) will get that weird and distinctly non-historical things are going on.

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