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Weidersehen = expression of FAREWELL; anxious to see what unfolds

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Jimmy was understandably furious, but I felt it was wrong for him to take it out on Kim. Just my personal take, but that probably was just the rage talking. He really went at her though, when they were in the parking garage. lol

Her retorts were SPOT ON. He seemed to be looking for reason to piss her off or chase her away. As we know from BB, they are not together at some point near future.

IF, he doesn't get in on appeal which I'm pretty sure that's what was previewed (his appeal process), what is he doing for next year? Almost think the appeal does work giving us a storyline for Jimmy/Saul for next season.

I do agree with Kim's reasoning on sincerity or lack of Jimmy bringing up his brother.

The Gus storyline is getting good IMO. The battle lines are drawn. We're seeing clearly how this lines up to what we learn in future BB years. Gus is a very tactical and genius. Again, the benefit of knowing already what happens in BB, it's extremely interesting to see how the pieces went into place as we are now seeing.

This episode title I guess was more about Werner Ziegler bolting the compound/DIG. Versus a Jimmy/Kim farewell, though that could be some foreshadowing. I'm sure he's gonna get caught but what's in store for once that happens and how will Gus/Mike handle? I suspect or surmise none of the Germans will survive since the last thing Gus is building towards does he leave a loose end of one of them talking about what they built.

Exactly. I think Ziegler is a dead man when he gets caught. Mike gave him his only warning before, when he was talking to much at the bar. This time, I don't think he'll be as forgiving for something like what he pulled on this week's show.

I also agree about Gus being a genius with how he is making his moves. I laughed out loud when he just kept giving those neutral responses to Lalo.

I really like the addition of Eduardo Salamanca. I know he won't last long but he is so different from all the other Salamanca's. Seems smart and determined, but beneath all that is probably someone as cold blooded as Tuco or the Twins.

This episode was, by far, in my opinion, the best one of the season.

I'm still undecided about there being another season of this show, however. But, who knows?

I think we're reaching the point where this intersects with Breaking Bad. I'm interested to see what happens to Jimmy from the first episode where we saw he was followed after leaving Cinnabon. And, of course, what the final nail in the coffin is for Kim and Jimmy.

@terriecoleman said:

This episode was, by far, in my opinion, the best one of the season.

I'm still undecided about there being another season of this show, however. But, who knows?

I think we're reaching the point where this intersects with Breaking Bad. I'm interested to see what happens to Jimmy from the first episode where we saw he was followed after leaving Cinnabon. And, of course, what the final nail in the coffin is for Kim and Jimmy.

Terrie, someone has said we are approx 4 years away still from BB, hence season 5 next year. So not sure how BCS merges completely into BB or if that is even intent? We clearly are seeing Gus and his operation getting closer to what we see in BB w/ his Super Lab being completed. And some additional background of w/ the newest Salamanca which we never see in BB so I expect him to meet his demise in the future.

Unfortunately we'll be left hanging and wondering for way too long for S5. Forcing me to at least to rewatch S4 and go back to rewatching BB episodes. Funny cuz I just happened to watch the episode where Badger is on city bench selling Meth to the undercover cop, with BETTER CALL SAUL emblazoned on the bench and this episode was our first real look/intro to Saul Goodman as he represents Badger and Walt and Jesse kidnapping Saul and taking him into desert to force him to represent Badger in court. Anywho, great stuff and agree with you this was an awesome episode, maybe best yet.

Well, a lot of shows are known for time jumps...and there has been a couple in this one....if you're telling the story what do you think happens over 4 years?

Yes, this episode showed the true genius of Gus. And as we saw in BB, it only got better.

I also agree, if Season 5 happens, it will be at least a year before we see it.

@terriecoleman said:

Well, a lot of shows are known for time jumps...and there has been a couple in this one....if you're telling the story what do you think happens over 4 years?

Yes, this episode showed the true genius of Gus. And as we saw in BB, it only got better.

I also agree, if Season 5 happens, it will be at least a year before we see it.

Good question and not sure I could remotely or creatively fill in the next 4 years? But here's a stab at the story lines we are following.

Kim/Jimmy storyline I don't think can be drawn out too much longer, IMO. As we are seeing, it's just not working and they are polar opposites in terms of career and fit. Even Jimmy screaming at her about how she more or less has been stepping down in level to 'Slipping Jimmy'. He knows it, she knows it. I'm hoping we see that split in this final S4 episode. I don't want to see any more drawn out story of these 2. Please make the break NOW. So this story line essentially dies and the next 4 years its Jimmy and his career as Saul the Lawyer.

Gus and his drug empire much easier to build upon with all the diff characters we either know of from BB or introduced to like Eduardo Salamanca . From his Chicken eateries, the Super Lab being completed and hidden with the dry cleaning business we know to exist soon, to the different drug dealing characters that either lead into BB or become bystanders and cogs in Gus's goal to control the SWest drug cartel. Which is honestly what most observers want more of with all the violence and stories to entertain. There's also the Gale Boetticher piece we could see along with how Gus lulls the DEA and local PD into believing he's an upstanding citizen.

Saul's transformation &/or his law practice could certainly be comical in terms of all the different types of clientele he would represent. Hardship, down trodden, unsavory types with every day types of cases we'd love to hear and see.

Sprinkle in some Mike Ehrmantraut stories, escapades and how Nacho turns out w/in the operation of things.

I'd agree there most likely has to be a time jump, HAHA cuz that 4 years seems like an eternity in getting us to the S1E1 of Breaking Bad.

I agree about Jimmy and Kim. The end is VERY near for them. But, what puts the nail in the coffin? The previews are so so fast but I think I saw Kim like running or something.

Can't wait for tonight.

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