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Item: Season 1

Language: en

Type of Problem: Incorrect_content

Extra Details: The whole season should be checked:

  • Why the first episode is number 0?
  • Dates seem to be wrong.
  • Episode 23 should not exist.
  • Episode Funeral at Fifty-Mile is included twices.

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@goncho314 wrote:

Item: Season 1
Type of Problem: Incorrect_content

Extra Details: The whole season should be checked:

  • Why the first episode is number 0?
  • Dates seem to be wrong.
  • Episode 23 should not exist.
  • Episode Funeral at Fifty-Mile is included twices.

Thanks for your report! slight_smile

The problem here is the pilot episode "The Murder of Sherlock Holmes", because:

It looks like the current chaos of the TMDb entry for season 1 is a result of all these variations (in different languages).

My problem is now: To fix this, which of these 4 options is the correct one? I didn't come to a conclusion, yet. sleeping

Any opinions?

Any opinions?

It was a two-hours premiere. I think it's fair to assume it's a single episode.

I fixed all the S1 translations that were added wrong. (None of the users made sure they matched the original data. face_palm_tone1 )

@banana_girl wrote:

I fixed all the S1 translations that were added wrong. (None of the users made sure they matched the original data. face_palm_tone1 )

Oh, thanks @banana_girl! kissing_cat Looks good now ...

It was a two-hours premiere. I think it's fair to assume it's a single episode.

I have a question -> I just read in the bible that "pilot episodes should be entered as the first episode of the first season (1x01)."

However, it's not a 100% mandatory rule for all pilots, because there's 1 exception:

"The pilot episode of an existing series can be added to the special season if didn't aired on television as part of the original first season. This might be the case when there is, for example, a significant cast change and a new pilot is remade with the new cast. Unaired pilots are often released as bonus content on the series' DVDs."

My question is in regards to the bold part: What should I do if the pilot aired "as a 2-hour Pilot Movie" 6 months before the rest of season 1? Meaning, it's not an unaired pilot, but it's also not really part of season 1. Or, is it?

I had this example yesterday (issue report is here), but when I just saw your decision here in this case, I wasn't sure anymore that I did the right thing yesterday? Should I change it or would this count as an exception? It's so complicated with our rules ... triangular_ruler

I believe you made the right call. They first aired a test pilot and the actual series premiered in the fall.

"pilot episodes should be entered as the first episode of the first season (1x01)."

Oh, these are actually the guidelines for new/upcoming pilots. It just means that new pilots should be added as the first episode of a new series rather than as a film, as episode 1x0 or as a special episode. But of course we always follow the original TV listing. When these pilots ended up not being counted as 1x01 for whatever reason, we always move them to the specials. nerd

@banana_girl wrote:

I believe you made the right call.

I'm relieved! sweat_smile

They first aired a test pilot and the actual series premiered in the fall.

Ah, okay, I understand! In such cases, I have to do more research and find out how it was broadcast back then!

"pilot episodes should be entered as the first episode of the first season (1x01)."

Oh, these are actually the guidelines for new/upcoming pilots. It just means that new pilots should be added as the first episode of a new series rather than as a film, as episode 1x0 or as a special episode. But of course we always follow the original TV listing. When these pilots ended up not being counted as 1x01 for whatever reason, we always move them to the specials. nerd

Yes, I misunderstood that part. Thanks for explaining! kissing_cat

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