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Roland kills Wayne (calls it SUICIDE by COP like the case was with the TRASH MAN).

But it will also happen AFTER Wayne remembers or learns about something that happened that Roland doesn't want him to recall.

Since we also saw ROLAND BEATING UP the other convicted CHILD MOLESTER, perhaps that's also what happens to O'BRIAN (Lucy's cousin who's body is found in the QUARRY)???

Only maybe this time ROLAND accidentally gets carried away and KILLS the guy that he's BEATING UP???

And maybe Wayne will also say something to Roland about it that gets him angry enough to KILL WAYNE???

Because with Wayne also being a CATHOLIC that would also mean SUICIDE as a way to END his life also isn't an OPTION for him.

Perhaps TOM will also say something to ROLAND about the COUSIN that sends ROLAND off on a mission to find him???

Because TOM will also need to say something after what JULIE said on the TAPE about TOM not being her REAL FATHER.

So perhaps Tom will also be the one who sends ROLAND off on a mission to find the COUSIN (who also called JULIE his NIECE).

:thinking:

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The thing to NOTE in this scene (at the 40 SECOND TIME MARK) is the way we see the CLOSE UP SHOT of the HANDGUN sitting there on the tiny DESK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sI7q1bKet8&index=9&list=PLFk0_sq6aOlvunfj1jEqS7shB-ghGa0bj

We also see the FILE BOX with BINDERS in it that have LABELS ON THEM:

CHILD ABDUCTION/ WEST FINGER??? / Friends & NEIGHBOURS/ LIFE & DEATH RESEARCH - PURCELL FAMILY/ DEVIL'S DEN

WAYNE says: Brown Sedan ... Farmer said ... 80 ... We knew exactly who they played with

(CLOSE UP SHOT here of the HAND GUN SITTING there on the DESK)

Wayne: She wrote a bit about the games we found how people worried that kids were getting killed playing this stuff or something

(Probably isn't his desk … because it's too small for his legs to fit under it)

Wayne: Henry was 5 or 6 I think when she started writing ... Becca wouldn't been 3 or 4

Sinister Music plays Wayne turns off the tape recorder in his hand

Voice of AMELIA:

SCIENTIST now THEORIZE an INFINITE NUMBER of DIMENSIONS OUTSIDE our own

Einstein said PAST PRESENT and FUTURE are all a stubbornly persistant ILLUSION

Wayne turns around sees Amelia sitting behind him:

Wayne: Oh, Oh, GOD

AMELIA: And are you waking up to that ILLUSION? Now while things fall apart???

You starting to see them clearly?

And at the end of all things, are you awakening to what you WITHHELD?

Did you confuse REACTING with FEELING?

Did you mistake COMPLUSION for FREEDOM?

Wayne: Please n .. n .. not like this

AMELIA: And even so ... did you HARDEN YOUR HEART against what loved you most?

(Does she mean HIS daughter??? Maybe because she's GAY)???

Wayne: Not like this

AMELIA: Oh, sweetheart

did you think you could just go on and never once have to look back?

Wayne: Please I don't deserve this I whatever happened I don't deserve this

AMELIA: No you don't but it's happening anyway

I'm so sorry

Wayne: Where is it I ... how much do I have to LOSE

AMELIA: EVERYTHING Same as everybody else

Wayne: I lost Becca

AMELIA: No you didn't Not the way you think

She Walks over to Wayne

You're worried what they'll find ... what you left in the woods

FINISH IT

Wayne turns around and sees an EMPTY CHAIR

This Downstairs Room is filled with LOTS of BOOKS (Wayne also previously said he didn't read much)

QUESTION:

DID AMELIA KILL HERSELF with Wayne's HANDGUN???

Is she REPEATING SOME WORDS back to him again that he once said to her???

Did you confuse REACTING with FEELING?

Did you mistake COMPLUSION for FREEDOM?

Wayne: Please n .. n .. not like this

AMELIA: And even so ... did you HARDEN YOUR HEART against what loved you most?

The part about confusing REACTING with FEELING also reminds one of what he previously said to her about her being a TOURIST and a VOYEUR who USED PEOPLE as a way to write stories and LIFT herself up.

Is it possible she KILLS herself because of the MEAN THINGS that he said to her???

According to the PLOT SUMMARY, this SUNDAY we also have another episode where someone else says something UNKIND.

Therefore the PREDICTION is AMELIA KILLED HERSELF with Wayne's HANDGUN.

But NOTE the way it also looks OLD when we see WAYNE OPEN up the DRAWER when the STORY begins, whereas it looks NEW when we see it sitting there on the DESK.

In other words, IF it's also the SAME GUN that WAYNE plans to use on himself, then it's also OUT of PLACE as it sits there looking NEW on that little desk.

:thinking:

Here's another link to a video which contains clips from scenes in the show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=vWF4cFTL_88

If you go to the 3:26 TIME MARK ...

What's interesting to NOTE is the LOOK we see on the face of ROLAND

as the FARMER they visit (who saw the BROWN SEDAN) describes the guy who came to the door with a BADGE.

NORMAL GUY, WHITE, SUIT, BADGE

a description which would also describe ROLAND himself.

And it's also another VERY VAGUE ONE (like the other one they got when the other WHITE WOMAN describes the BLACK MAN with a DEAD EYE who buys the DOLLS from her at the FAIR).

So could that be the reason why NO REPORT in regards to what the FARMER saw was ever filed???

Because it was ROLAND who visited the FARMER???

ALSO NOTE the way ROLAND drives around in a BROWN car.

And here's a PHOTO of an 1980 model BROWN SEDAN which also looks very much like the one we see ROLAND driving:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Dodge_Aspen_2-door_sedan_brown.jpg/1200px-Dodge_Aspen_2-door_sedan_brown.jpg

Since COPS get NEW CARS to drive around in when they're on DUTY, perhaps the one that ROLAND drives is also a NEW ONE as well???

You can also see the BROWN Car that Roland drives around in at the 4:06 TIME MARK in the VIDEO link.

THE STRANGE LOOK on his face that we see ( after the FARMER describes the guy with the BADGE) definitely also seems to indicate Roland has something to HIDE from WAYNE.

And that's not a suggestion that ROLAND had something to do with the MURDER of WILL and disappearance of JULIE, but it's a suggestion that ROLAND is part of a COVER UP regarding WHO is responsible.

And that also seems to be indicated by the way ROLAND gets the PROMOTION (whereas WAYNE does not), and by the way AMELIA mentions what a NICE NEIGHBORHOOD Roland lives in when she and WAYNE visit and have dinner with him at his HOUSE.

And what about the 25 YEARS where WAYNE doesn't contact Roland???

One could assume it's because he's upset about the PROMOTION (also made evident by the PIGMENTATION remark).

But what if the reason he doesn't see Roland anymore isn't because of the PROMOTION ... but is because Wayne figures out ROLAND's the one who PLANTS the clothing and the FAKE BACKPACT at Woodard's house ... and removed the FINGER PRINTS from the STORAGE BOX that Wayne is looking for???

IF the case is OPENED UP again in 90, and it's 2015 when they meet again, then that also fits into the 25 YEAR TIME FRAME that they've had no contact with one another.

And perhaps the reason for that could be because WAYNE discovers how ROLAND helped someone to COVER UP something in regards to the PURCELL case in return for the PROMOTION that he received which enables him to be able to afford to buy the house where they had dinner with him???

:thinking:

So the PREDICTION is the FARMER was also PROTECTING ROLAND in that scene (because ROLAND is also the guy with the BADGE who came to see him).

Yes?

No??

Maybe so???

Here's another 6 min clip of the GHOST SCENE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqnGAgkvF0

At the 5:06 TIME FRAME

we see another CLOSE UP of the HAND GUN sitting on the DESK as WAYNE says this:

Wayne: I might be deciding I don't want to stay alive without your mother

Then he Tells someone to SHUT UP and says:

YOU'RE NOTHING

And he looks over at the HALF OPENED DOOR.

So WHO is he talking to???

His SON??? His DAUGHTER???

:thinking:

Another PREDICTION:

AFTER ROLAND KILLS WAYNE ... then WAYNE'S SON HENRY will probably KILL ROLAND.

And we'll probably also never know if the reason why he does so is because he KNOWS about the PROMOTION that he got from the COVER UP or if HENRY kills him because he kills his father.

:gun:

True Detective S03E05: Analysis And Curious Questions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJM4MTwgSq4

At the 1:40 TIME MARK We see Harris JAMES in his COP UNIFORM at Woodward's house/The other PHOTO of his FACE/ and then the face of ELIZA.

Is she his daughter???

They LOOK A LOT a like, and that could also explain her interest in the case if she's his offspring (which would also parallel having WOODWARD's 2 kids interest in the matter).

Then we hear Wayne calling Amelia

"A TOURIST and a VOYEUR"

and saying that "she LIFTS herself up on people's BAD LUCK"

Before the person making the video says this:

He deals with the REALITIES ( DEAD BODIES/ WEEPING PARENTS) FRUSTRATING DEAD ENDS Sees his wife PROFITING while being able to keep a safe distance away from it Like a DRAFT DOGER writing a book about the WAR who PROFITS from it

Which is also an interesting way to describe the reason why Wayne HATES the BOOK so much.

So the PREDICTION is Eliza could also be the daughter of this missing HARRIS JAMES.

Here's another interesting video where it compares Woodard, Purcell, and HAYES:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noJ07huBxT0

And calls them TRAPPED MEN who are located in what it calls a place between LIFE and DEATH.

The scene where Wayne sees all of the GHOSTS from VIET NAM standing behind him also confirms that's where he's located.

And Since WOODDARD's found a way out of his situation by having Wayne kill him, will PURCELL also find a way out the same way???

Will Purcell also end up dead as well???

:thinking:

This isn't a PREDICTION as much as a CONFIMATION from one of the ACTORS (who plays the part of ROLAND) that the ENDING will be something that he describes as being:

EXTREMELY EMOTIONAL ... BEAUTIFUL and POETIC … SPECIAL and DIFFERENT.

read:https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/tv/a25932107/true-detective-stephen-dorff-nic-pizzolatto-bring-back-matthew-mcconaughey/

commenting on Ali's recent comments to Esquire that the show's finale was the best piece of television he has ever read, Dorff affirmed that it was extremely emotional, and very different from season one's conclusion.

"Nic held that back from us for a while, it was in his head but he hadn't put it on page or given it to anyone until there months into shooting," the actor recalled.

"I remember reading it and bawling. It's pretty beautiful and poetic... It's really special and different. All I would say, it's very different from the ending of season one, how it all wrapped and you got the bad guy... But there is closure."

So WHAT could happen that would fit into the BEAUTIFUL and POETIC kind of CATEGORY???

Somehow THE PINK ROOM being used as some kind of area for CHILD MOSLESTATION doesn't seem to fit in with the way that we're told the ending of the story WRAPS UP.

What comes to mind is what WOOODARD said about how he's STUCK in a place where he can't LEAVE and he can't STAY which then leads to his getting Wayne to KILL HIM.

And that also seems to PARALLEL how Wayne is also STUCK in a place where he can't LEAVE or STAY due to the DEMENTIA.

Because LEAVING by KILLING himself would be against his religious beliefs. And he can't STAY because the DEMENTIA keeps ROBBING him of the memories that he has left.

So perhaps the "BEAUTIFUL and POETIC" part will be where he Wayne BEGS ROLAND to KILL HIM and help him to LEAVE (the same way as Wayne also helped the TRASH MAN to LEAVE a place that he didn't want to STAY in anymore)???

And maybe JULIE also feels TRAPPED in the same kind of a place due to whatever happened to her the day Will died???

And maybe the girl we saw AMELIA talking to about JULIE also feels the same way (due to the kind of ABUSE that she endured inside of the CONCRETE JUNGLE that she inhabited)???

Something also tells me we're going to HEAR Wayne try to make a CONFESSION to that PRIEST that kept bugging him to do so.

:thinking:

Since we also saw ROLAND BEATING UP the other convicted CHILD MOLESTER, perhaps that's also what happens to O'BRIAN (Lucy's cousin who's body is found in the QUARRY)??? Only maybe this time ROLAND accidentally gets carried away and KILLS the guy that he's BEATING UP???

It wasn't Dan O'Brian that Roland BEAT UP, but he did KILL the other guy (Harris James) that he BEAT UP.

So at least one got part of the PREDICTION right.

Anyone else have any ideas about what happens NEXT WEEK???

Perhaps IF Wayne ever told his wife about what he did (which seems confirmed by what her GHOST said to him about what he left in the WOODS), she took the kids and left him???

Then he'd also have ended up like THE TRASH MAN (Woodard) and TOM PURCELL (after the disappearance of Julie and death of her brother).

The OPENING CREDITS also have a scene with the STATUE of what looks like a WHITE JESUS with it's arms outstretched.

Perhaps that's also some place that Wayne goes to make his LAST CONFESSION in the FINAL EPISODE that takes place NEXT WEEK???

ANOTHER PREDICTION:

Mr. HOYT will probably also take Wayne to meet his daughter who's as BAT SHIT CRAZY as Wayne said he was as a 70 yr old detective.

And his daughter will probably also end up being the White woman with the ONE EYED Black Man who kidnapped Julie because she thought she was her own daughter.

The PINK ROOM is probably also where Mr. Hoyt kept his daughter after she lost her mind after the deaths of her child and husband.

And his daughter is probably also the one who told Julie she was a PRINCESS when she took her with her to the PINK ROOMS.

:thinking:

Mr. HOYT will probably also take Wayne to meet his daughter who's as BAT SHIT CRAZY as Wayne said he was as a 70 yr old detective. And his daughter will probably also end up being the White woman with the ONE EYED Black Man who kidnapped Julie because she thought she was her own daughter. The PINK ROOM is probably also where Mr. Hoyt kept his daughter after she lost her mind after the deaths of her child and husband. And his daughter is probably also the one who told Julie she was a PRINCESS when she took her with her to the PINK ROOMS. >>

Got some of this part right, but was DEAD WRONG about what was said in the FIRST message posted here.

Did anyone else see the SERIES FIANALE tonight???

If so, what did you think of it???

That's was pretty SPOOKY the way it ends with the 2 GRANDKIDS RIDING BIKES down the street the same way as we see JULIE and her brother doing when the story first begins!!!

Poor Wayne.

After searching for JULIE for all of those YEARS, only to also LOSE his MIND once he finds her and not realize he's finally found her.

@Invidia said:

Mr. HOYT will probably also take Wayne to meet his daughter who's as BAT SHIT CRAZY as Wayne said he was as a 70 yr old detective. And his daughter will probably also end up being the White woman with the ONE EYED Black Man who kidnapped Julie because she thought she was her own daughter. The PINK ROOM is probably also where Mr. Hoyt kept his daughter after she lost her mind after the deaths of her child and husband. And his daughter is probably also the one who told Julie she was a PRINCESS when she took her with her to the PINK ROOMS. >>

Got some of this part right, but was DEAD WRONG about what was said in the FIRST message posted here.

Did anyone else see the SERIES FIANALE tonight???

If so, what did you think of it???

That's was pretty SPOOKY the way it ends with the 2 GRANDKIDS RIDING BIKES down the street the same way as we see JULIE and her brother doing when the story first begins!!!

Poor Wayne.

After searching for JULIE for all of those YEARS, only to also LOSE his MIND once he finds her and not realize he's finally found her.

Spoilers...

I thought the ending for this season was bitter sweet. It was nice to know that Julie was alive and well. But it was quite sad that Wayne didn't realize he had found her. I'm thinking his son holding on to that address implies that they're going to eventually find out she's alive.

With that said, this was a great season. I loved how they interwoven the different time periods.

After their Father puts the paper with JULIE'S address into his pocket …

Here's what was posted to the PREDICTION TOPIC in regards to the ENDING ...

where we see Wayne's 2 Grandkids riding bikes down the road …

the same way as JULIE and her brother also road their bikes down the road when the story first began:

WHY do we see Wayne's SON place JULIE'S ADDRESS into his pocket???

And then see his 2 kids riding BIKES down the road the same way as JULIE and her brother had done?

Could that be a HINT that they may also disappear and the STORY is to BE CONTINUED???

The OPENING part where Wayne's wife reads the poem and says the STORY continues would also seem to be still another indication that this may be the case ???>

If that were to happen, then the TIME PERIOD could end up being EXTENDED even further into the FUTURE TIME.

:thinking:

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