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That is to say - Was there ever, in the history of television, any TV series (which wasn't cancelled before they had the chance to film a finale) which was treated so contemptuously as to actually frame it within another show!

I still can't believe they did that 😔

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I really didn't care for it, either. Deserved way better.

@The Midi-chlorian Count said:

That is to say - Was there ever, in the history of television, any TV series (which wasn't cancelled before they had the chance to film a finale) which was treated so contemptuously as to actually frame it within another show!

I still can't believe they did that 😔

I didn't think it was that bad myself. Both shows are in the same universe.

@Jetfire59 said:

@The Midi-chlorian Count said:

That is to say - Was there ever, in the history of television, any TV series (which wasn't cancelled before they had the chance to film a finale) which was treated so contemptuously as to actually frame it within another show!

I still can't believe they did that 😔

I didn't think it was that bad myself. Both shows are in the same universe.

That's true - but that's part of the problem, it effectively showcased - using Enterprise's finale - that it was viewed, by it's own producers, as an inferior show.

And even if you believe that it was or not, it seemed pretty humiliating for the people who'd worked on it. Can you imagine the uproar if they'd ended the TNG by framing it within TOS?

@The Midi-chlorian Count said:

@Jetfire59 said:

@The Midi-chlorian Count said:

That is to say - Was there ever, in the history of television, any TV series (which wasn't cancelled before they had the chance to film a finale) which was treated so contemptuously as to actually frame it within another show!

I still can't believe they did that 😔

I didn't think it was that bad myself. Both shows are in the same universe.

That's true - but that's part of the problem, it effectively showcased - using Enterprise's finale - that it was viewed, by it's own producers, as an inferior show.

And even if you believe that it was or not, it seemed pretty humiliating for the people who'd worked on it. Can you imagine the uproar if they'd ended the TNG by framing it within TOS?

No, to be honest. I am an old timer. I saw TOS back in the 60's. Every long-term Trek fan I know would have been thrilled f they'd done that.

I think it was not fair to the Enterprise story. I can understand why the writers would want to do it as a bit of fanservice. However, in doing so, I believe they took away from the Enterprise series. I also never understood why they chose that TNG episode to use. In the grand scheme of things, that episode is pretty insignificant. Why not choose a more pivotal moment of TNG?

almost as bad as Dexter. True Blood was worse.

They were in Riker's snow globe the whole time!

Turnabout Intruder was a far worse finale ,plus the finale of the reBSG was pretty underwhelming and lame.

H&I showed The Pegasus the other day, and I started thinking again, when did Riker have the time for all the holodeck-visiting he supposedly did for the Enterprise series finale? From what I saw, he didn't have it.

Plus I don't actually understand why Riker would visit this program because it is hardly related to the topics in The Pegasus where he has to make a decision whether to lie to Picard or to come clean on what had happened on the Pegasus I don't see what that has to do with the foundation of the Federation

@Moonglum9 said:

They were in Riker's snow globe the whole time!

LOL

The end with all the Enterprises and their captains doing the speech was pretty cool though

Maybe they should have just done that, then, and skipped the rest of the terrible episode.

Well the rest of the episode was pretty decent apart from the Frakes and Sirtis moments they could have chopped them out and it wouldn't have made any difference.

Apart from those parts of the episode? I guess you could say that. But I'm not sure it would have been much of a finale like that, more like just another standard episode. Maybe the federation charter bit could have been expanded some to fill in the Riker/Troi space.

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