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Item: Saison 3

Language: fr

Type of Problem: Incorrect_content

Extra Details: sorry for a second message but there are pb on other's season's too, at the and of season there are new eps added and all it's wrong.(not good all error here are reported in my website)

The last time i have see this series all it is very clean, that has changing !

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@seboseboss wrote:

Item: Saison 3
Type of Problem: Incorrect_content
Extra Details: sorry for a second message but there are pb on other's season's too, at the and of season there are new eps added and all it's wrong.(not good all error here are reported in my website)
The last time i have see this series all it is very clean, that has changing!

Thanks for your 2 reports! :slight_smile:

When you take a look at the older content issue reports for this show here:

https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/30983-case-closed/discuss/category/504794a319c29527aa000640

you can see that there are many open reports by naggarok from April 13th.

I assume that's what caused the chaos -> I'm starting to handle these reports now, but I'm not sure I'll finish this tonight. Let's see ... :wink:

EDIT: I wrote in another report 2 days ago that we might have to re-structure this show completely:

https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/30983-case-closed/discuss/5af2badec3a36855c5004911?page=1#5af47c199251417e22000029

You say it was very clean when you last saw the data. Was everything correct?

ok no problem, i do the maximum for help, but sorry for deleting i can't.

@seboseboss wrote:

ok no problem

Well, here's the thing -> you already wrote 2 content issue reports in February 2018 regarding this series:

https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/30983-case-closed/discuss/5a85d25a0e0a26545302871c
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/30983-case-closed/discuss/5a85d040c3a3686316027cd8

You reported that "this serie need to be totaly updated, cause of lot of error in saison" and that "there are 4 eps at the end of season 1 need to be deleted".

Both is most likely true, this series seems to be a mess. Mainly because different contributors of different countries in different languages add their data differently. Which leads to chaos! :confounded:

We're working on a solution for this type of content, but we need time for cleaning everything up and fixing the mistakes. I can't delete single episodes that look empty to you, because there's still a translation in another language that would be lost inevitably. That's why we need to re-structure this show, hopefully in the near future. :fingers_crossed_tone3:

i do the maximum for help

Can you tell me: Which source do you use and in which language? Do you have a link to the website/webpage for me?!? :nerd:

but sorry for deleting i can't.

I know, only we moderators can do that. But we can only delete things when we're 100% sure about the original airing and how different languages match this default airing. And this takes lots of time ... :hourglass:

I use french langage and my prior source is a very good website for animes : https://www.nautiljon.com there are all data needed for here and it's better for certain thing exemple grouped animes for this case : https://www.nautiljon.com/groupes/d%C3%A9tective+conan,82.html there are all series, film, oav and more and more and it is very complete.

Yes it's for big serie's the same pb, for naruto shippuden for exemple, i have bloqued update from tmdb and changing with wiki data, i haven't the same number of season, it's classed didferently.

@seboseboss wrote:

I use french langage and my prior source is a very good website for animes : https://www.nautiljon.com

So, "Detective Conan" is originally a Japanese series, correct? Where do I find the original Japanese air dates on this website?

there are all data needed for here and it's better for certain thing exemple grouped animes for this case : https://www.nautiljon.com/groupes/d%C3%A9tective+conan,82.html
there are all series, film, oav and more and more and it is very complete.

Are there a lot of differences between the French episode order and the original Japanese episode order regarding this show?

Detective Conan is an ongoing anime. There's already like 900 episodes. Starting from episode 370-ish, syoboi is the way to go for airdates. Anything before that, I would trust AniDB on.

It's also on CR, but it's geoblocked, in NL I can't access it, and Funimation, but same. Though that's of course the US order. ((//EDIT: If there's even a difference, I don't know)

And the official JP website with episode listing is here

@alltimemarr wrote:

Detective Conan is an ongoing anime. There's already like 900 episodes. Starting from episode 370-ish, syoboi is the way to go for airdates. Anything before that, I would trust AniDB on.

Thanks Marr! :kissing_cat:

Okay, so, how should I do it?

Option 1: I make a season 1 with all those 900+ episodes in it? And when this is finished, we can make all kinds of episode groups.

Option 2: I split those 900+ episodes in seasons like it is now?

When it comes to the content: Is one option better than the other one?

If it doesn't matter, I think all episodes put in 1 season is easier/faster to realize by me.

It's also on CR, but it's geoblocked, in NL I can't access it, and Funimation, but same. Though that's of course the US order.

The US order is good for translations, but first I have to make sure I add the original Japanese airing correctly.

And the official JP website with episode listing is here

Okay, I try to figure this out. :eyes: :eyeglasses: :nerd:

Definitely one season, and episode groups for alternative orderings, but I think we better ask travis to merge all the seasons, when all wrong episode are discarded (if neccessary). Creating 900 episodes anew is a bit of a pain I would guess.

@alltimemarr wrote:

Definitely one season, and episode groups for alternative orderings

Okay.

but I think we better ask travis to merge all the seasons, when all wrong episode are discarded (if neccessary).

I'm not sure if that will work properly?!? I was looking into a few reported episodes and there were translations in different languages, but with different titles. Meaning: should we invest time in fixing the current mess just to let Travis merge them properly? It's a bit of wasted energy, no? :thinking:

Creating 900 episodes anew is a bit of a pain I would guess.

Unfortunately, yes! I'm not sure how long it will take, but I'm willing to try, even if it's just for the sake of finding out how long it takes? :rofl:

I won't have time tomorrow and on Monday, but I could plan to start on Tuesday, and then let's see how it goes? Season 1 will probably be a mess for some time, but it's already a mess anyways ... :wink:

Ugh, all the translations, yes :( That's true... what a pain!

I'll try to start on completing 1996 today. Just a quick note, from what I see on the first episode, the JP episode title currently say: episode X "episode title", which is wrong, if the title is 第1話 「ジェットコースター殺人事件」 it should actually only be the title between the bracket thingy. So the first episode title is ジェットコースター殺人事件

for my case i'm going to take wiki data for my website and block the tmdb auto update for this series, it's the most simple way, i have doing that already for naruto shippuuden and that work perfect.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_%C3%A9pisodes_de_D%C3%A9tective_Conan

Thx for your help guy's

@alltimemarr wrote:

Ugh, all the translations, yes :( That's true... what a pain!

Yes, ugh! :scream:

I'll try to start on completing 1996 today. Just a quick note, from what I see on the first episode, the JP episode title currently say: episode X "episode title", which is wrong, if the title is 第1話 「ジェットコースター殺人事件」 it should actually only be the title between the bracket thingy. So the first episode title is ジェットコースター殺人事件

Okay, that's good to know. This will be fun ... :lying_face:

I've added all the 1996 episodes so far, and the first of 1997. Only the JP data thought. Next step would be English CR data in my case (I can access it by googling and then "cache version".

I'm using the official website for the listing, and every few episode I copy paste the episode title and ctrl + f it at syoboi to see if there haven't been things going on such as like with Pokemon [mod thread].

For every anime I've researched, syoboi has been correct, so for all recent anime airing info syoboi has been like a holy bible.

bookmark for JP episode, next to add 66

:top: this is the next episode to add. After adding the title and the description and date, I just hit next to go to the next episode and so on, and about every 10 episode I match it up with syoboi. (see above)

// EDIT: Checking the English translations now, it's true the translations are off. Today I'm gonna watch an episode of a series, and then do JP translations of 1997, then watch another ep, do english translations of 1997 and so on and so on! :D

I checked all translations for the first 43 episodes. I added all EN ones, and corrected the few that had actual data for episodes (mostly formatting the multipart episodes to the way we prefer with (1) and (2).) There's only few languages with data: French, German, Spanish, and Korean. Chinese (CN) amd Italian have title-only data. I haven't copied the data from other episodes to the respective languages though... So those other languages are only filled up to episode 28.

@alltimemarr wrote:

I've added all the 1996 episodes so far, and the first of 1997. Only the JP data thought. Next step would be English CR data in my case (I can access it by googling and then "cache version".

Okay. I see.

I'm using the official website for the listing, and every few episode I copy paste the episode title and ctrl + f it at syoboi to see if there haven't been things going on such as like with Pokemon [mod thread].

For every anime I've researched, syoboi has been correct, so for all recent anime airing info syoboi has been like a holy bible.

I will try this, maybe tomorrow after work. But I'm not sure I find the time before Tuesday ...

bookmark

:top: this is the next episode to add. After adding the title and the description and date, I just hit next to go to the next episode and so on, and about every 10 episode I match it up with syoboi. (see above)

Okay. Thank you! :hugging:

EDIT: Just saying, I locked season 1 for now, so that noone can meddle with this inbetween. I hope that's okay ... :sleeping_accommodation:

Something weird happened: new user dbplay added a new entry for this show here

https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/79506-detective-conan

with 1 season and 1350 episodes 7 hours ago:

https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/79506-detective-conan/season/1

Why?!? Could this be Travis? :thinking: