"I don't like dishonest violence. We've had about 35 years of war movies where the hero dies quietly, sometimes with a smile on his face for having given his all. If we had shown men dying as some of us who've seen combat have seen men dying -- screaming their guts out -- we may not have been so anxious to send our sons to war."

--Gene Roddenberry

I agree with Gene violence and gore is part of every day life (just turn on the 8 o'clock news)to deny this would be denying who we are and movies like all other forms of art reflect this holding up a mirror to humanity.Should we attack directors who show us "real violence" just because they produce moving images?Because if we are going to attack a violent film we should also attack paintings depicting gore and violence (like the ones of Francis Bacon or some paintings by Bosch)or books describing it (like Stephen King or Edgar Allan Poe)or plays(Shakespeare or the French Grand Guignol Theatre) I think that people should make a clear distinction between fiction and reality. and violence has always been viewed as "entertaining" hence the popularity of gladiator matches during the times of the Greeks and Romans(every self respecting sizable Roman city around the empire had a colosseum or amphitheatre). and violence can be found in the plays of Shakespeare and in the painting from all over the centuries,even early images in Mayan and Aztec temples show graphic violence cinema is a modernised version of all these and should be something viewed in a similar fashion.

Now back to Mr. Tarantino I think a lot of people have a lot of misconceptions about the "actual gore" that Tarantino shows in his movies which is actually very little with the exception of Kill Bill vol 1 ,were the violence is "comic book" violence much like the violence in another misunderstood movie Natural Born Killers scripted by Tarantino, whereas the over the top comic book violence in NBK is used to satirise the violent nature of American society and the lust for violent items by the commercial mass media,the violence in KB vol 1 was used as an over stylized homage to Asian martial arts movies of the '70's and 80's (which are quite violent themselves and do have feats like people "flying around" like mythical creatures lol).In his other movies there is violence but there is always a stylised element to it to underline that we are in a fictional world often with characters goofing around(much like real criminals do according to the gangster movies of Scorsese based on "real events") on the point of breaking down "the fourth wall" (barely not winking to the audience).

I can see a problem with portraying death as being so awful that nobody will ever be a police officer, or fireman, or even soldier. That would bring civilization down pretty quickly. And if you get people convinced that nothing is worth fighting/dying for, enemies can just walk right in and take over. You might even get so risk-averse that kids won't skate or ride bicycles because they're so buried in padding that it's no longer enjoyable. Or there won't be any places TO skate or ride, because everyone is worried that even if some kid is skating blindfolded - or just blind - and gets hurt, they might be sued out of existence. Which is close to where things are already.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "TIRAMISU"?

Tiramisu is an Italian dessert Jet;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiramisu

Aaaalllrrighty then. How does that relate to what sunshine said in the OP? Sorry, I'm a bit thick skulled at times.

Thanks Nexus..I'm dogsitting Luna (Moon)at my cousin's house for the week and I don't have my PC ..I find it hard to posts links with my iPhone.

Jet I know the dessert looks yummy but you forgot to read the explaination.

TIRAMISU' means :

"pick me up ",

"cheer me up ",

"lift me up ".

My OP :

Shatner's take on this scene when his boby is taken over by an alien is one of my top "TIRAMISU' " moments .

I just thought it was a "sweet" way to say it made me laugh..

Ah, I see. Thanks for the education.

@sunshine62 said:

Thanks Nexus..I'm dogsitting Luna (Moon)at my cousin's house for the week and I don't have my PC ..I find it hard to posts links with my iPhone.

You're dogsitting Luna? Barbara? Hardly a dog.

No, definitely not a dog. But, don't ya think she'd make a sexy werewolf, Chris?

What a crazy coincident , I had no idea the actress that played the woman that helped Kirk in Mirror Mirror was named Barbara Luna ...

My Luna is only 7 months old and she' s driving me nuts....SHE walks me , SHE pulls left and right, SHE has her nose in my plate and SHE is always chewing on something..today it was the small fig tree... We have some sweet moments too ..she loves to flip over and get her tummy tickled . One good thing ..my cousin has Netflix.😋

What breed is she, sunshine?

@ to Jet.

Luna is a Weimaraner.

I think they are also nicknamed "Grey Ghost"....originally a German breed.

An Aunt & Uncle of mine had a Weimaraner long ago. He was a big baby.

@sunshine62 said:

My Luna is only 7 months old and she' s driving me nuts....SHE walks me , SHE pulls left and right, SHE has her nose in my plate and SHE is always chewing on something..today it was the small fig tree... We have some sweet moments too ..she loves to flip over and get her tummy tickled . One good thing ..my cousin has Netflix.😋

Quick. Call Cesar Millan