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In part 2 'The killing game" A nazi gives a impassion speech and the BBC cuts half of it out.

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Is this what you're looking for:

http://www.chakoteya.net/Voyager/416.htm

KAPITAN: I have always thought highly of you.

TURANJ: Have you?

KAPITAN: Yes. But the Kommandant is a fool. He doesn't understand. He's never embraced the Fuhrer or his vision. One does not cooperate with decadent forms of life. One hunts them down and eliminates them. The Kommandant speaks of civilisation. The ancient Romans were civilised. The Jews are civilised. But in all its moral decay, Rome fell to the spears of our ancestors, as the Jews are falling now. Look at our destiny. (the flag behind the bar) The field of red, the purity of German blood. The blazing white circle of the sun that sanctified that blood. No one can deny us, no power on Earth or beyond. Not the Christian Saviour, not the God of the Jews.

We are driven by the very force that gives life to the universe itself. We must countermand the Kommandant's orders, stay and fight. We must be faithful to who we are.

Doesn't look like you missed hearing anything important or worth hearing.

Because when you HUNT others down to ELIMINATE them, then how can you also claim to GIVE LIFE to the UNIVERSE???

A VULCAN would also say that LOGICALLY speaking a statement like this MAKES NO SENSE whatsoever.

How the hell can one GIVE LIFE to anything when your MAIN GOAL is to HUNT things down and ELIMINATE THEM???

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Killing_Game,_Part_II_(episode)

MEMORABLE QUOTES:

"They're Nazis, totalitarian fanatics, bent on world conquest. The Borg of their day. No offense."

  • Tom Paris to Seven of Nine

Sing or you will die."

"Then I'll die....One day the Borg will assimilate your species, despite your arrogance. When that moment arrives, remember me."

  • Turanj and Seven of Nine

Luke 22:19

19And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me."

29For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves.

Thats the speech. The actor was very good. It was key momet of the plot and it was strangly cut. Did the BBC think it would make new nazis?

MOST likely its a TIME ISSUE due to the way the BBC also doesn't usually have to AIR or DEAL with COMMERCIALS the way we have do deal with watching them over here on the other side of the POND.

So something had to be CUT OUT in order to make way for having enough TIME to air them.

And since NOTHING in the remark being made is ESSENTIAL to the rest of the PLOT, or is really even that UNIQUE or interesting, why not DELETE IT???

It's definitely a load of CRAP that we've all heard many, many other times before in one way or another.

:rolling_eyes:

I disagree. The actor gave 1 of the most impassion nazi speechs I have ever heard. It was that speech that made TURANJ betray his commander and kill him. That 1 speech was perhaps the whole focal point of the whole story line. Question: If they need time why not cut the long into/crdit scene?

And one also disagrees with what you say about the speech.

Because PASSION also isn't the MEASURING STICK that one should use to determine whether or not a SPEECH is GOOD or not.

It's the CONTENT of it that matters.

And as was pointed out before, there's NOTHING really NEW or UNIQUE being said in it that we haven't all heard MANY MANY TIMES before elsewhere.

Also haven't seen this eppy enough to remember whatever it is that you're calling the long into/crdit scene.

Every newer trek show (tng,,ect) at the beginning has a long intro scene with music showing the credits...cut that,

They can't CUT that part because it lists the NAMES of the ACTORS in it, the people who WROTE IT, etc.

And it's probably also a part of their CONTRACT that they be given CREDIT for having done what they've done.

It's the same as suggesting someone remove the TITLE page or the OUTSIDE COVER of a NOVEL because one also doesn't really need it.

GUEST STARS would also be upset if one were to do that, because their names would also not be listed each week the same way the names of other REGULAR members of the cast would be.

The SPEECH really wasn't anything important enough to keep it.

We've heard that kind of BS several times before in many other places.

Ah that's a pity Star Trek could use some more Nazi speeches "Big Smile,Big Smile " :laughing: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

How are the ELECTIONS going over there NEX???

Last night on the RACHEL MADDOW show she discussed what had happened in AUSTRIA where some 32 year old that formed a party run by FORMER REAL NAZI'S called the FREEDOM PARTY was in CAHOOTS with PUTIN before he got BOOTED OUT of office.

And RACHEL also compared the BREXIT situation to our situation, and said BREXIT was a FORESHADOWING of what was to come in our last PRESIDENTAL ELECTION where PUTIN also had an INFLUENCE.

Go HERE:

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show

The video that discusses what happened in Austria is called:

Russian agitation seen in European politics as elections approach

And it runs for 14:39 min.

You'll also see OVER HERE/OVER THERE in the first couple of minutes of the video.

The AUSTRIA part of it starts about 6 min into it.

So are your ELECTIONS showing a rise of this FREEDOM PARTY OVER THERE on the other side of the pond???

Well those populists didn't get the majority as was predicted one party (Wilders) lost big and the other only got about 10% of votes(still too much IMO) but our Labour party won big thanks to Hans Timmermans running for EU president.But it seems we were less Euro-skeptic than was assumed.

Hans Timmermans at the UN condemning those responsible for the shooting down of MH 17 and how was dealt with the remains of the (mostly Dutch) deceased.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcGCBHNcKyI

Last night on the RACHEL MADDOW show she discussed what had happened in AUSTRIA where some 32 year old that formed a party run by FORMER REAL NAZI'S called the FREEDOM PARTY was in CAHOOTS with PUTIN before he got BOOTED OUT of office.

Which is the reason why the Dutch intelligence won't share any information with Austria actually in a live debate between Mr. Timmermans and his Austrian fellow EU minister ,Timmermans mentions this same thing in a debate and why the the integration of some countries into the EU is falling short.

And RACHEL also compared the BREXIT situation to our situation, and said BREXIT was a FORESHADOWING of what was to come in our last PRESIDENTAL ELECTION where PUTIN also had an INFLUENCE.

Well the whole Brexit thing is turning out like a Greek tragedy in five acts the date has already been and still no Brexit and now the Brits had to vote for new EU representatives because of the delay :laughing: .May gave up so now they have to pick a new prime minister who can take over the job and what consequences that will have nobody knows ,and nobody seems in a hurry to jump in because they rather won't burn their fingers on the whole Brexit thing so that probably means they will need a new extension so in the end nobody believes it wil happen or maybe they will go for the Nordic construction.Plus Johnson,Farage and Rees Mogg are morons who stil live in the Victorian age of Rule Britannia.

Thanks for the VIDEO clip Nex.

Were the remains every retuned???

Mr. Timmerman calls for JUSTICE … perhaps someone should also POISON PUTIN with the same stuff that he used to POISON the other father and daughter in Britain???

Or PUT a BULLET into his BRAIN the same way someone else did when they BLEW JFK AWAY???

Or maybe RUB some of the same kind of stuff into PUTIN'S FACE as the NORTH KOREAN BRAT had them RUB into the face of his brother???

On LAST WEEK TONIGHT they also discussed how people who deal with the remains of people here in this country were caught posing with the HEAD of a MAN he'd CUT OFF. Not only that but members of his family including his own kids were also playing with it and posing for pictures. And the FAMILY of the deceased also saw them doing that. Still another person who deals with remains was caught letting his DOG eat the SPLEEN and part of the kidney of another body.

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-news/john-oliver-death-investigation-last-week-tonight-837420/

So apparently the same kind of DISGUSTING DISREPECT that PUTIN had for the remains of the victims of the CRASH has also SPREAD as well???

The SAME way as the SCAM MAN also keeps SPREADING his DISREPECT???

Don't you also have 3 more days left of ELECTIONS to go through????

Hopefully the results will continue to SHOW the same kind of DISFAVOR towards people who behave like they are the INHUMANE PUPPETS of PUTIN.

Well the remains were finally flown to Holland a week later with the first bodies arriving a week later which were met with a lot of dignity and respect to the 193 Dutch and 100 bodies of various other nations ,each time a new flight with body arrived the same scenes could be seen along the route.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD3uJ6mQMPY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hhtBPrnOQE

As for Putin getting shot or poisoned seems rather unlikely since he is backed by various very rich oligarchs,plus he has the backing of the military because the last couple of years he has been investing in the military (after decades of budget cuts).Also as a former KGB man is using the FSB and FSB tactics to silence opponents and suppress the population with censorship and intimidation.Also admitting to the role of Russia would mean he would suffer loss of face and prestige not only at home but also abroad.And you know what is ironic ?That most of the victims were from a country that voted against a tighter relationship between the EU and Ukraine in a referendum years before MH 17 happened and was part of the reason why the Russians got involved in East Ukraine in the first place.

Well all the other countries still have to vote but the Brits and Dutch have voted yesterday although the news that the pro Eu fractions won came as a surprise to most countries/

Thanks for the links NEX.

Watching 40 HEARSES all in a row really illustrates the kind of DAMAGE that was done. Especially when one also realizes that wasn't all of the bodies that still remain to be brought back home again.

And it was also heartwarming to see how supportive and compassionate the people were in your country when the bodies arrived.

But, imo, PUTIN still needs someone to put a STOP to what he's doing. If they could get to Bin LADEN who was located living inside of a place where several other MILITARY families lived, then surely someone could also find a way to get to PUTIN as well.

They showed a video of him where he FELL DOWN at a HOCKEY game the other night. If someone had been there, that could also have been a good way to RUB something onto him like THE KOREAN BRAT had them RUB something onto the face of his brother at the AIRPORT.

PLUS PUTIN also attends other meetings like the one in HELLSINKI where the SCAM MAN had a secret meeting with him and said he believed him instead of his own intelligence agencies.

So that could also be a good way to get to him. Maybe POISON his FOOD or the AIR in the MOTEL room where he's staying???

And maybe they could also BRIBE someone who guards him to look the other way???

Will also be Keeping fingers crossed that the rest of the ELECTION RESULTS will continue to be GOOD NEWS.

Well killing off one opponent in one sovereign country is one thing but to kill off another in a sovereign nation that has a large nuclear arsenal and military is another I guess :laughing:

@Invidia said:

Thanks for the links NEX.

Watching 40 HEARSES all in a row really illustrates the kind of DAMAGE that was done. Especially when one also realizes that wasn't all of the bodies that still remain to be brought back home again.

And it was also heartwarming to see how supportive and compassionate the people were in your country when the bodies arrived.

But, imo, PUTIN still needs someone to put a STOP to what he's doing. If they could get to Bin LADEN who was located living inside of a place where several other MILITARY families lived, then surely someone could also find a way to get to PUTIN as well.

They showed a video of him where he FELL DOWN at a HOCKEY game the other night. If someone had been there, that could also have been a good way to RUB something onto him like THE KOREAN BRAT had them RUB something onto the face of his brother at the AIRPORT.

PLUS PUTIN also attends other meetings like the one in HELLSINKI where the SCAM MAN had a secret meeting with him and said he believed him instead of his own intelligence agencies.

So that could also be a good way to get to him. Maybe POISON his FOOD or the AIR in the MOTEL room where he's staying???

And maybe they could also BRIBE someone who guards him to look the other way???

Will also be Keeping fingers crossed that the rest of the ELECTION RESULTS will continue to be GOOD NEWS.

Putin is one of few leaders fighting for western civilzation

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